Talk:Tim Murphy (American politician)

Content of "Tenure" section
While interesting, I'm not sure the information about his traffic accident belongs in the Tenure section--certainly not with the level of detail that is presented there. Consider moving it to an "Other facts" section and shortening the reference to it in the Tenure section to 0 or 1 short sentences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvint69 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Wording question
Anyone else think that "won big" is both poor grammatically and a potential POV issue?


 * I agree, and I'm changing it.

Vic Troy 22:22, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Political views
I really think a political views area needs to be added (24.54.140.217 00:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC))

Deletions
It looks like someone from Wake Forest University keeps deleting the "ethics flap" content. I guess blocking the IP @s from the House of Representatives isn't good enough to protect us anymore. 02:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Potshots
I think everyone should refrain from using this as a political platform to take potshots at either an incumbant or a candidate. Without any opposing or balanced viewpoint this is simply a blog and not a source for valid biographical information. If you feel a need to attack an individual, please use a blog or a different platform, not Wikipedia. 18:17, 21 December 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.103.225 (talk • contribs)


 * You appear to totally misunderstand what Wikipedia is about, and what is appropriate for articles about people. In your last set of edits, you removed THREE sources as well as deleting or minimizing negative information about Johnson.  Negative information not only is perfectly appropriated (if correctly sourced, as was the case here) for articles on people, per WP:BLP, it's important if the article is going to be informative and useful.


 * If you know of any Wikipedia policies that support your assertions about what people should "refrain" from doing, please cite them here. Otherwise, please stop deleting information from the article.  John Broughton  |  Talk 16:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

POV
The entire political stances section reads like something out of a press release. Could someone take out a lot of the opinionated adjectives and adverbs? It's not Wikipedia's place to decide whether he's "naturally" been a leader on health care reform, and if he has, could someone please put some evidence? Furthermore, this is the only page that takes a long shot at CREW, even though there are plenty of Congressmen who have it mentioned on their page. Just mentioning briefly that the organization is left-leaning will do, and we shouldn't assume that the corruption charges were politically motivated in the heading. Clevomon |  Talk 14:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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Abortion
While this is a provocative and hypocritical situation, I do not believe his abortion request to Edwards should be in the lede section. It seems like that would be giving this situation undue weight in this article. I recommend removing it from the lede and keeping it in the Personal life section for now. Thoughts? Some of everything (talk) 21:26, 4 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The only reason Murphy is sufficiently notable to have a Wikipedia entry is because he's a Congressman. So the reason for why he's not seeking reelection is pertinent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.190.27 (talk) 00:26, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree the situation is pertinent and relevant for inclusion in the article; however, I do not believe it belongs in the lede section of a BLP. We would typically not include the reason why a political candidate chooses not to seek reelection in this section. Some of everything (talk) 18:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Spouse
The information box says Shannon Edwards is his wife. The body of the article says that Shannon Edwards was the women with whom he had an affair and that she was currently married to another man. This inconsistency should be resolved. ____ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnmwiki (talk • contribs) 23:09, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Good catch. His House biography page says his wife's name is Nan. Earlier (as in last month) versions of this article list his wife as Nanette Missig. I'm thinking we should restore that, although it's possible his marital situation is in flux. --MelanieN (talk) 23:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2017
The following external link to a video should be removed because the video it points to has been taken down by youtube: The Last Word on YouTube compares two C-Span videos of his reactions to Medicare Part D (2006) and the Affordable Care Act (2013) Stablefiend (talk) 12:10, 6 October 2017 (UTC)Stablefiend (talk) 05:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Sparkling Pessimist   Scream at me!  16:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 6 October 2017

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Moved to Tim Murphy (American politician). bd2412 T 15:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Timothy F. Murphy → Tim Murphy (U.S. politician) – WP:COMMONNAME. Murphy is more popularly known as "Tim", ranging from various media reports about his scandal and resignation:
 * Politico
 * Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
 * NPR

Similarly, the Massachusetts congressman Jim McGovern's article is called Jim McGovern (U.S. politician), not "James P. McGovern". Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson is at Ron Johnson (American politician), not "Ronald H. Johnson". Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:30, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Agree. L3X1 (distænt write)  14:40, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

As an inhabitant of a neighboring congressional district and general follower of the surrounding areas' politics, I can confirm his constituents also refer to him as "Tim". Furthermore, I think [User:L3X1|L3X1]'s point is also empowered by the fact that Jim McGovern's article is indeed "Jim McGovern" even though I've heard him talked about as both.
 * Support Agree. Camkatastrophe (talk) 20:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support though Tim Murphy (Pennsylvania politician) (like Mike Kelly (Pennsylvania politician)) is also an option. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:12, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Big difference is that there is another American politician named Mike Kelly. Arbor to SJ (talk) 23:14, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Per WP:COMMONNAME. AusLondonder (talk) 10:02, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support but it should be Tim Murphy (American politician) in my opinion. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 16:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support, but to Tim Murphy (American politician). "American" is the adjective we always use for people. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support move to Tim Murphy (American politician). Good suggestion. --MelanieN (talk) 19:43, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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"Mistress"?
I see in the lede the word "mistress". "Mistress" is derogatory and suggests an unequal relationship, such as a woman supported financially by a man for sex. Since the woman in question has her own job and didn't depend on Murphy for anything, I find this term inappropriate. I suggest it be changed to "lover". Zaslav (talk) 01:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You are quite right. The source says "lover" in the first paragraph and "girlfriend" in the second paragraph. "Mistress" is nowhere in the source. I will change it to "lover". Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 01:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Lead
A new editor has repeatedly removed material from the lead about the circumstances of Murphy's resignation. Since this is clearly a relevant aspect of Murphy's biography (as reflected by independent, reliable sources and their coverage), it is necessary to mention it in the lead, per WP:LEAD. I'm not clear on the other objections, but maybe they could be discussed here? MastCell Talk 17:13, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

'Abundant reviews'
= many reviews (which is close-ish in meaning to 'abundant') or favourable reviews?

Regards to all, Notreallydavid (talk) 03:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)