Talk:Time Traveler (video game)

POV
Much of this article is written subjectively. Ex. "At a time when arcades were still popular" this fails to take into account that while arcades have declined in America, they are still very popular and common in Japan, Korea, and other nations.There are other issues throughout. I suppose another thing to point out is that this article claims there were "40 actors" but there were actually 16 actors playing 40 roles. Promontoriumispromontorium (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not subjective, it's a fact, it's just only a fact in some countries. In fact, most countries, outside the Far East. Since this is an English-language Wiki, I think it's fair to say the Japanese version of the article would be a little different. And that's fine.


 * There's really no purpose to this nit-picking. If you put in "when arcades were still popular, in Western countries, but in Japan and Korea they still are popular, for what that's worth", the article would be 3x as long and unreadable. Japanese arcades are irrelevant to the reader. Next time you spot some small "mistake", have a think about what the alternatives are. It's an online encyclopaedia for ordinary humans. Not an infallible database for a planet of robotic disembodied brains. 188.29.164.190 (talk) 07:46, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

disambiguation page needed
There really needs to be one, I typed my own article not knowing that this one existed, typing time traveler will get you to the article on time travel. The snare 08:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, it already exists: Time Traveler (disambiguation). --SevereTireDamage 20:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but typing just plain time traveler won't get you there, it instead brings you to the article on time travel. The snare 06:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Merge with Time Traveler
Time Traveler has less content than this article and I believe this title is more accurate.

that link you gave links to the disambiguation page for time traveler, and I wrote another article for this same game (you can check the history) and I think this one is more detailed and specific. The snare 20:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No that the disambiguation page it shouldn't be merged with it. --Team6and7 23:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Cube Trader Bug
I am having trouble reproducing the cube trader bug on my DVD copy of Time Traveler. The bug commentary in the article wasn't written by myself initially but by another contributor. The original explanation focused on the ability to buy more reversal cubes than intended. Originally I thought this was true, as I did notice something odd when playing this segment in the game. However after playing it today I don't see the game allowing you to buy more cubes. The bug is actually something very different: the game's level select menu screen's change showing random level progress that's not indicative of how far you really got that game session.

The bug is achieved by playing the trader's sequence up the point where the "you cannot buy more, come back later" clip plays. Once you are returned to the main menu, the trader option is still available. If you select it again, the trader's video clips won't play, but instead change the level select screen to a different one. Pressing the trader option many times will cycle through several menus showing various degrees of game completion.

It's easy to get confused as the game does not show at any moment how many cubes you have accumulated over time. Every time a player goes to the trader's sequence they get two cubes. Every time the level select menu is shown the player can get two more cubes.

For the time being I will replace the original bug explanation with the updated one. If anyone can confirm the original bug, let me know.Onoff456 (talk) 03:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I specifically remember, I don't have a ref though (if someone has one could they add it) that you could buy more cubes in the arcade version at least, if you inserted more coins after she says "That's all you can buy now, come back later," but not before you've left her. I had added it actually. The snare (talk) 07:36, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Lead section
Per WP:LEAD this is too long (for an article this long it should be max 3 parags) and contains a lot of detail that should really be in the article body.


 * Looking at your previous edits makes me think you took this rule to heart. I do see the good intention behind it. I think the drafts segmented the article too much. Maybe one or two more, but four is too much. We just have to come up with a simpler segment. What do you think?Oldgraphics (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure I understand. I said the Lead should be shorter, not longer. Max 3 paragraphs. The detail should be in the body of the article, not in the Lead. --Dweller (talk) 10:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The images in the Lead are also better off placed in appropriate sections, other than one in the infobox. --Dweller (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I tried putting them in different places before, but couldn't get it to look consistent between IE, Firefox and Opera. Do you have a better idea?Oldgraphics (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll have a stab when I get a mo'. --Dweller (talk) 10:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Waving Their Hands
''I originally wrote this section for discussion but later decided to undo it, thinking it wasn't worth the trouble going through so much effort for a single sentence. Now however I got a message from an admin saying I may be causing an edit war, so I guess I got exactly what I thought was trying to avoid. '' I recently noticed an edit done by a user in which he takes out the last sentence of the first paragraph that says "It is very common to see people reach out and waive their hand through the little characters as if the images were ghosts." The reason he gives in the edit logs is quoted as 'No, it's not at all common, as the game is not "common"'.

The original sentence refers to what people commonly did at the time when the machine was out at the arcades. It does not refer to the availability or rarity of the game. I think the user who edited this part out misunderstood the meaning of the sentence. I think what may have thrown him off is that it was written in the present tense (trying to follow Wikipedia standards for video game content). I think I'll change it to past tense in hopes to make it more clear.

The user is welcome to add content talking about the collectability aspect of the arcade machine or suggest a better edit to the original sentence. However the sentence does state a common occurance among users of the game that deserves to be documented. It's an interesting fact and I am keeping it in. I am more than happy provide evidence of the fact (though I think that's too much for a single sentence).Oldgraphics (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. Well, it's an interesting statement and helps visualise the holographic effect. However, it does read like a small breach of WP:OR: how do you know it was common for people to do this? Perhaps you saw people doing it, but how many of these consoles did you see in action? Best would be if you have a WP:RS who you can quote as saying it was common? Otherwise, replace "common" with "possible" and there's no OR. --Dweller (talk) 11:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * well oldgraphics it seems dweller and the other guy, if not the same, are just dumbass who understand nothing, it is obviously useless to argue with that kind of people, all this discussion is pointless, this is a pollution.


 * Unfortunately severe autism / being a pedantic, childish arsehole, makes unpaid moderation an attractive job for some people. I get the impression they don't have a lot of power in real life. The autism would explain their sticking rigidly to "rules" that are stylistic in nature, and therefore really more guidelines. They're actually worse than some of the malfunctioning robots the place is also infested with. It's one reason I'm never going to donate anything to this godawful website. It has it's uses, from a number of genuinely knowledgable and generous people. But the "management" is infested with social defectives. Wikipedia really, really, ought to do something about that. I don't think "Jimbo" really gives much of a shit. 188.29.164.190 (talk) 07:35, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Stereoscopic
The article says the display is stereoscopic. I'm certain it wasn't. It was just one ordinary monitor in the cabinet. I actually played the game in an arcade. And OF COURSE I put my hand through it! 188.29.164.190 (talk) 07:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Agreed entirely, also having played it. Not a stereoscopic display, and not a stereoscopic game. Just a weird that appears to make the display float (to some extent) within the usual decoration of an arcade cabinet. ― 64.48.93.0 (talk) 21:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I checked every resource I can find, and this thing is absolutely definitely not stereoscopic. That claim appears to have been added by an anonymous user back in 2006, and isn't corroborated anywhere. Indeed it's directly contradicted by a wealth of evidence, including every presentation of the thing on Youtube. So I removed it. — 72.69.70.147 (talk) 02:45, 3 November 2017 (UTC) (but same user as immediately above, just now elsewhere)

Marshal Gram actor name.
IMDB lists him as Steve Wilbur, not Stephen Wilber. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162010/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_lk1 Stephen Wilber is a different one role actor. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1123989/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 Bizzybody (talk) 00:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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Augmented reality !?
this game can be classified as the first arcade with augmented reality!? --CloudHighway (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Dispute sourced satement about forty actors
As of this writing, the article states "The game's action sequences were filmed [...] with forty actors [...]" and provides as source "Demaria, Russell and Wilson, Johnny L., The Illustrated History of Electronic Games. 2002. McGraw Hill Publishing. p. 279." (available at https://archive.org/details/highscoreillustr0000dema/page/278/mode/2up ).

This is a wrong statement. There may be 40 characters, but they are played by a significant lower number of actors. Also see https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162010/fullcredits and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSqqvJlA3QQ. Abdull (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2023 (UTC)