Talk:Time attack

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I've finally gotten around to rewriting this page, see User:Duozmo/Time_attack. I know that my new content is shorter, but I think that's for the best, and I'm happy to hash things out with anyone that's interested. I will put this new content up no sooner than Nov 27, even if I don't hear from anyone. For some background on why I wanted to rewrite this article, see the merge proposal at Talk:Speedrun. --Duozmo 14:34, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * There are a couple of things I would change in that proposed text. For example, is time attacking really less popular than speedrunning? I doubt it, since anyone can use a game's built in time attack mode, whereas speedrunning usually requires additional emulation/recording equipment or software. Personally I'm fairly happy with the wording of the article as it is, but there are a few things I do prefer about your proposal, which I'll incorporate. It is past the 27th, after all. :) --Nick R 15:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Done it now. Let me know what you think, but there are still some problems - I think the article needs a better structure, with some section headings; it's not very good having the contents menu halfway down the page! --Nick R 16:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry I haven't responded for so long. I set a reminder to myself but forgot to have it trigger an alarm, and the date just sailed by without me noticing. I think what you've done here is better than what I have. I'll take a second look when I have a little more energy, but at the very least it's a major improvement over what used to be. Cheers --Duozmo 08:32, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not believe that NASA Time Trials should be mentioned on this page for Time Attack, at least not in the main body of discussion. Time Trials are not Time Attacks. There are very distinct differences between the two forms of Motorsport competition. Users looking to find information on Time Attack will be confused and misled if they attend a NASA Time Trial event looking for a Time Attack event. NASA does not organize Time Attack events, which is what this Wikipedia page is supposed to be discussing.--Chezterr (talk) 22:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedrun external links template
I've started a discussion at Template talk:Speedrun articles external links regarding whether the game-specific section should be included in the template, or whether the links there should only appear on the individual games' articles. Please post your thoughts on that talk page. --Nick R 10:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Why racing games always time-limited?
Racing games (e.g. Virtua Racing, Daytona USA, Manx TT Superbike, and others) alawys have a time limit to skill out.

In this case, please GET READY TO CHALLENGE WITH TIME.

If time counts "00", you will taking into Game Over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.160.211.69 (talk) 05:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Time attack/time trial
To anybody who cares - I don't know enough to fix/clarify this, but the article starts with "time attack is another term for time trial" and below we have "Time Attack events should not be confused with Time Trial events." Was the latter still referring to Pikes Peak specifically? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.145.14 (talk) 02:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * To be clear—this article explains nothing. I read it carefully and it gives no information whatsoever. There is no way after reading this to summarize what a "time attack" event is, nor how a "time attack" differs from a "time trial". In fact more than half of the introduction is an advertisement for NASA Time Trials. Could someone who knows please write a short, clear, paragraph which describes what a time attack is? Could someone who knows please write a short, clear, paragraph which describes specifically how a time attack differs from a time trial? Nick Beeson (talk) 12:01, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

for tuner event and media
I removed "for tuner event and media" from the first paragraph, because it made no sense. First it is bad English diction; it should be "for Turner Events and the media." Second googling "turner event" brings up three Lexus dealerships near New York City and nothing else. These are all local events, sponsored as advertising and sales events, and are not explained nor defined as to what they are at these web sites. These are definitely not notable as Wikipedia defines it. Nick Beeson (talk) 12:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

intro rewrite
Below is the introduction I removed. It was incoherent containing such terms as "street tuned cars" and "tuning media" (which has only 54k hits on Google--this is a tiny number of hits indicating this is specialized technical jargon, not known to readers of Wikipedia. "tune up" is a similar auto related term known to everyone and it got 7 million hits.) The actual form of competitions is not described. The type of cars is only hinted at. In other words this is a mess. Look at Stock car racing, Formula One, or Drag racing for good examples of what this introduction should look like.Nick Beeson (talk) 20:59, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

"A time attack is another term for time trial. The term is commonly used in Japan for individual time trial events for motor vehicles that involves a vehicle running around the circuit in lieu of a qualifying lap and the term is widely adopted outside the country.

Time attack (alternatively known as Super Lap or Tuner Battles) originated in Japan when the tuning media organized the event on race circuits such as Tsukuba Circuit, where it commonly occurs, as a proving ground for street tuned cars built with a large budget by tuning result of the quick rise in popularity, tuners developed purpose built cars for the competition,[1] including HKS CT230R Lancer Evolution, with its body made entirely out of carbon fiber. The Lancer Evo is the OEM chassis time attack record holder at Tsukuba.

Unlike other timed motorsport disciplines such as sprinting and hillclimbing, the car is required to start off under full rolling start conditions following a warm up lap where they will have to accelerate out as fast as possible to determine how fast they enter their timed lap.[1] Commonly, as cars consist of modified roadgoing cars, cars are required to wear tires authorized for road use and in all, drivers are allocated to three laps in a final event run; warm-up, timed and cool-down.[1]

Largely as a result of the popularity of the tuning industry, the name appears as a category for modified production vehicles at the annual Pikes Peak International Hill Climb utilizing time attack regulations allowing aftermarket modifications to the car.[2][3]

Time attack and time trial events differ by competition format and rules. Time attack has a limited number of laps, time trial has open sessions. Rules for time trials are more restrictive.[citation needed]"

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Article split
It seems to me this article is trying to cover two different subjects, motorsport and video games, and the article should be split accordingly. --Falcadore (talk) 00:46, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this needs to be split into Time Attack (motorsport) and Time Attack (computer games). HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 05:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)