Talk:Time of Troubles (Forgotten Realms)

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god selves
"Finally, Lord Ao lifted the barrier that prevented the Mulhorandi god-kings from reuniting with their divine selves on the Outer Planes. The physical incarnations of the Mulhorandi gods departed Faerun and left governance of the empire to mortal rulers under their guidance.[6]"

I thought all the gods were mortalized and they only had that form. This is a first to me, what would have happened if these kings died, it would be just like a god losing an avatar when it normally sends one? Were they exempt from the mortalization that happened to the dieties? The snare (talk) 04:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * According to, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition, the Mulhorandi god-kings were physical copies of gods worshiped by the Mulan people at the time they were taken from their original home and transported to Faerun for use as slaves. Ao allowed the copies to be sent to Toril in response to the prayers of their worshipers. Since they had long ago been freed, there was no further need for them to stay. --Auric (talk) 16:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Devastatingly powerful
Is this true? I remember in the first book of the avatar triology it was said Mystra couldn't see the staircase Helm was guarding because she was neither a deity nor a "great mortal" as it says 66.189.93.53 (talk) 02:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Kelemvor?
I know 3e refers to Kelemvor as a god of death, but I don't remember seeing where in the Avatar trilogy he is promoted. At the end of "Waterdeep" he seems to be a mortal still. When was he ascended? 207.145.133.34 14:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

God only knows if you'll ever read this, this long after you asked, but... in one of the two books set after the trilogy but continuing the same plotline.Krilia 14:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was during the Cyric series, wasn't it? I can't remember if it was book 1 or 2, though. Turlo Lomon 09:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Moander and Finder
I believe that Moander's demise was not a part of the "Time of Troubles" storyline, and occurred after the gods had been restored. I'm going to remove Moander from the list of destroyed gods. Caelarch 18:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Notability
See this article and follow a bit of logic: Forgotten Realms is notable because it's the second (or maybe most) famous campaign setting devised for D&D, with numerous novels and play materials created for it. The linked article indicates the designers' assertion that the Time of Troubles was one of the most well-known events in that setting, and furthermore indicates how the event in the campaign setting was connected to the real-world release of the notable 2nd edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. In addition, due to its length, it would be unwise to merge this article into a "parent-in-concept" article such as Forgotten Realms. Therefore, this topic is notable enough to receive its own article, and I've removed the notability template accordingly. -- Dachannien TalkContrib 10:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Real World Timeframe?
I was wondering, and others may want to know as well, what time frame ((real world ) ie: 1998)) these events were issued from WotC or TSR. I find it interesting that there material relating solely to the events, and not to the promotion or real world sale and introduction of such lore. All of the "in-game" stuff is well done, but there is no real world ties showing or mentioning the game product. 66.207.82.237 (talk) 04:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Lolth
Didn't Lolth kill some lesser goddess and take her portfolio during the ToT? I could sworn she had. *shrug* 71.51.98.37 (talk) 19:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Could be; if you find out, let us know. 204.153.84.10 (talk) 20:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Story books about the Time of Troubles
Were there any Forgotten Realms story books written about this time between the Temptation of Elminster and the Shadow of the Avatar series? I'm trying to read the Elminster series by Ed Greenwood again, but I don't recall any story books about this. I've been so far unsuccessful trying to find something. Hmm...where does the book on the seven sisters fall in? Thanks, Kurt (198.177.95.129 (talk) 05:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC))