Talk:Timeform

Ratings
The ratings on this page are not strictly Timeform ratings: they are actually a mixture of Timeform ratings and ratings taken from the book A Century of Champions by John Randall and Tony Morris (1999). Many of the Randall/Morris ratings differ significantly from the equivalent Timeform ratings. Timeform did not publish ratings for American-trained horses before the 1990s and so the ratings shown for champions such as Secretariat and Native Dancer are purely historical ratings, calculated many years after these horses' racing careers were over. It would be good to have an accurate list of the original and genuine Timeform ratings, which have earned a considerable reputation throughout the racing world. Bartflower 16:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Betfair purchase?
The Betfair purchase has not been mentioned? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.163.242.18 (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

Frankel rating
Surely the rating given to Frankel is a provisional one, and it is therefore not appropriate to include it in the table at this stage. Unless someone can give me a reason not to, I'm going to remove it. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

P
Why is there a P beside Spinter Sacre's rating? If the P stands for provisional then surely there should also be a P beside Long Run as he's still racing. Perfectamundo (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Small p means horse is likely to improve. https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/guides/abbreviations (Mobile mundo (talk) 21:32, 5 April 2016 (UTC))

TimeformUS vs Timeform
I noticed that there are significant discrepancies between TimeformUS and Timeform ratings. For example, Gun Runner's Stephen Foster win this year was rated 139 by TimeformUS, but he was only given a 133 in the Timeform global rankings. On the flip side, Mor Spirit's Met Mile win was rated 130 by TimeformUS and given a 132 in the Timeform global rankings. Clearly, the two systems differ in some way, so I think it's safe to assume that they are not necessarily directly comparable.

What should we do about horses given their ratings by TimeformUS in the highest rated racehorses section? Keeping them in without some sort of way to differentiate between TimeformUS rankings and Timeform rankings skews the overall picture of who the best rated racehorses are. I propose we create two separate tables, one for horses by Timeform rating and one for horses by TimeformUS rating. This change might be considered controversial by some people, so I thought I might run it by other editors first. Aspening (talk) 03:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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