Talk:Timeline of Al Qa'qaa high explosives

This has got to go. It's notable today but probably won't be in a couple of weeks. At best it's a tiny footnote to the war on Iraq.Dr Zen 05:17, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If it becomes a footnote, the relevant entries can be merged into the general timeline of the Iraq War. As it is, I don't think you can claim with any accuracy whether it will, or will not, be of any interest in a few weeks. Sbwoodside 05:22, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well then, dood. If you can't claim with any accuracy that it will be, out it has to goDr Zen 05:30, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Look, if this is an issue of notability, it should not be counted as a speedy deletion. Please list this page on WP:VFD if you think it should be here. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:37, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * It's not an issue solely of notability (which is in any case a catchall term deletionists use to cover everything they don't personally approve of). The guy's mounted Roscinante and headed for the windmill. It's a point that has been blogged here and there about a place that doesn't even have a Wikipage. Are you planning to write pages on any and everything that Hullaballoo blogs about?Dr Zen 05:44, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * So take it to VfD then! - Ta bu shi da yu 05:53, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * It's too much like hard work. Last time I tried the procedure it gave me a thorough headache.Dr Zen 06:00, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * My last word on this matter (unless I'm pushed): if you think it will be a headache, then don't do it. Just don't expect this article to be removed any time soon! We certainly won't be deleting this as a speedy deletion. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:04, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that's the royal "we"?Dr Zen 06:05, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * No, "we" as in the administrators who can delete articles. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:07, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Your argument seems to be, "since it won't be important in a few weeks it should be deleted". Or perhaps it is the related "this is a news entry not an encyclopedia entry". However you have not cited any Wikipedia policy or guideline, please do that next time. Sorry, I am unable to locate any rule that would do so - I considered both Candidates_for_speedy_deletion and Deletion policy. However according to What Wikipedia is not: "Creating encyclopedia articles on topics currently in the news is an excellent idea." I think this situation with Al Qa Qaa is interesting and worth documenting in encyclopedic fashion. Sbwoodside 05:55, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, obviously you do, Simon. That's why you did it. Why do you need rules though? If you are right, and this is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopaedia, you don't need a set of rules to tell you so, do you? But of course you know you are not right. You have posted something of transitory interest, for political purposes, and are hiding behind the policy. Where, by the way, is your article on Al Qa Qaa? Where is your article on the Al Qa Qaa controversy? That's what's in the news. The timeline business is what's in the blogs. I know, it's terribly fascinating but can't you just stick it in your blog?Dr Zen 06:00, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Last UN inspection
It's difficult to find the last date of UN inspection of the HMX at Al Qa Qaa, I am still searching the UNMOVIC and IAEA documents. Part of the problem is that Al Qa Qaa is so huge, there were a lot of different inspections there, of all kind of different things. Different parts of the complex have different names and are near to different cities. So far I have not been able to find the name of the specific part of the complex that held the HMX or where precisely it was located.

VfD discussion: consensus to keep
There was a VfD discussion closed on 07:59, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC), which is archived at Votes for deletion/Al Qa Qaa controversy timeline. The resulting consensus was to keep the article. Lupo 07:59, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Merge
I'm going to merge this with the other Al Qaqaa article. No sense in having duelling timlines. If no objections this week, I'll do it by next week. --user:Ed Poor (porous reed) 14:34, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)

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