Talk:Timeline of Zen Buddhism in the United States

Introduction
Please add your teachers to this timeline. I am a student of the Rochester Lineage. I will add what I can about other teachers such as Shunryu Suzuki Roshi. Thank you for your contributions to this.Golgofrinchian (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed some rather ordinary details from the Kapleau and RZC entries because this timeline will prove to chronicle the more significant events. Minor details will make completion, or at least some semblance of completion, impossible. I hope that is okay with you. (Mind meal (talk) 19:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC))

Excellent Job Mind meal! I don't mind removing any of the simple things I entered. Some of the dates I used were guesstimates. Very thorough work. I will do what I can by filling in more details that are pertinent. Golgofrinchian (talk) 22:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Good job to you, too. Any details you can add will be much appreciated. I try to add the timeline to any article we list here in a see also section, also. That way it will get more coverage and will likely grow faster. (Mind meal (talk) 23:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC))

I appreciate the work that went into this page - but I hardly think the mention of two Brad Warner books being published deserves mention among the highlights of Zen in America. I'm removing the latter entry, leaving the former as notice that he appeared on the scene (?) Tao2911 (talk) 20:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Wu Kwang did not receive "transmission" in 1984, but in 1993. I made correction. he got 'inka', or authorization to conduct koan interviews in Kwan Um tradition, in 1984.Tao2911 (talk) 20:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Updates
Page has several mistakes in dates and facts to be corrected. 1. Kapleau went to Japan in 1953 as his biography says, not in 1952. 2. 1968: Soen Nakagawa founds New York Zendo Shobo-Ji not in 1958 3. 1974: Robert Baker Aitken receives Dharma transmission from Yamada Koun (this possibly occurred in 1985, instead) As per Aitken Biography on his own site, he got teaching permission in 1974 and Dharma transmission in 1985. 4. 2010: Eido Tai Shimano resigns from the board of the Zen Studies Society after 42 years due to allegations of misconduct. 42 years is not true, and not necessary. 5. 1964: After rift with Aitken, Eido Tai Shimano moves to New York and becomes guiding teacher of the Zen Studies Society Adding derogatory comment in this page is not appropriate. 6. added the fact the Syracuse Zen Center was was funded by graduate students.Spt51 (talk) 03:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

thank you
@ Spt51 - This list has become indicative of what Wikipedia is really all about. Back in Feb 2008 I made this list from an ignorant and egocentric view that the person that started the center where I am a Sangha member was in fact the first Zen Master in the US. I thought the Rochester Zen Center was the first Zen center in the US also. From this list and more studies I have learned I was wrong. Its special to learn contrary facts, at least in my opinion. It was not until this list started filling out by many contributors that my small 5-6 entry list grew into something special. It is now a growing and thriving list that has some inadequacies to be sure, but also is quite impressive with its scope. If anyone finds anything on this list that is both categorically incorrect or slanderous please feel free to remove it. Thank you for your efforts on this and all other matters. Golgofrinchian (talk) 03:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Chapin Mill
This list was started by me as a way to list dates of interest in the Zen Community. It was not started as just to say when someone started practice, received inka, formed a new group. It has however turned into that which is fine. To remove items based on opinion of worth is not the best way to edit this page. While someone starting practice may not be all that notable, building a 135 acre retreat as a last act of a dying man might be seen as notable to some. I would hope that we either edit what is wrong with the tone or presentation of an item on this list and not just delete at our own discretion. If a sentence appears to be biased maybe rewrite it for the person to make it seem more neutral. That way the information stays, but is more in-line with wikipedia's standards. Thank you for your efforts in this Golgofrinchian   talk  13:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It simply doesn't fit. I didn't create this page. I think it is realtively sound, and its really clear reading it when something sticks out as out of keeping with the page. When this place opens, and an abbot or what have you is installed, it bears mentining. "Breaking ground" is not. I'm sure it was very noble of some "dying man" to wish to create this. When it is functioning in an objective assessment, it will be worth mentioning. How many other "groundbreakings" are listed? How many "land donors"? Let me help you - none. Serious POV issues result.Tao2911 (talk) 15:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Golgofrinchian, I changed the wording in the 2007 line about Chapin Mill being completed. It belongs to Rochester Zen Center; without saying this people do not know which Center it belongs to. What do you think? Feel free to change or correct. Spt51 (talk) 01:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all Spt51. Thank you for your efforts.  Golgofrinchian  (talk)  17:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)