Talk:Timeline of the 21st century

Trump is impeached (2019)?
Currently, the section for 2019 says, "The President of the United States, Donald Trump, is impeached". I'm not American, but I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened yet. 183.83.227.242 (talk) 16:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official." He was indicted in the house and then acquitted in the senate, the indictment doesn't go away. Dat GuyTalkContribs 18:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

"Deaths of" sections
Someone without a long in is adding many "Deaths of" people to each year. I think this is the type of thing that can quickly get out of hand. I think it either needs criteria or needs to be dropped all together. Same with Timeline of the 21st century. tahc chat 16:56, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that there are too many on this page and they're too American-centric. Same for the previous century. M.Clay1 (talk) 08:20, 26 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if they warrant their own page but split it is better than leaving them here as they are (namely, without criteria for inclusion), so I will split it out. tahc chat 20:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that page is needed (almost every person famous today will die in the 21st century), but it's certainly good to not have that information on this page. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Currently there is (more) discussion on this at Talk:Deaths of the 20th century. Please talk there. tahc chat 04:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

seriously guys?
I know this is somewhat petty to mention but a 13-year-old listing his own birthday as one of the pivotal events of the 21st century took 4 days to revert? Serendipodous (talk) 18:06, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Notability of deaths
The 'deaths of,' ignoring the obvious bias has flip flop requirements. Is Anthony Quinn's death as notable as Dale Earnhardt's? (random example) And what should be the requirement? A major award (hall of fame, oscar) in their field? A membership in a limited order such as an OBE or FRS? Dat GuyTalkContribs 19:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd get rid of them, personally, except perhaps for the deaths that have their own pages.  Serendi pod ous  18:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

What's with all the Philippines stuff?
Filipino news seems to be given an unjustifiable focus in this list.
 * The Philippines have just reached enough internet penetration to become a presence on this site, and they've figured out that if they just keep adding material after it's deleted, they can add whatever they want.  Serendi pod ous  07:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for comment re: Filipino additions
Recently a number of additions on the topic of the Philippines have been added, but I am not in a position to judge the notability or lack thereof of contemoporary Filipino history. I would like a second opinion regarding which entries meet notability and which do not.  Serendi pod ous  17:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Procedural comment -, I would suggest rewording this RfC statement to be a bit more neutral, and to make it clearer what the content at issue is. The explanation about Filipino IPs and the rising profile of Filipino internet users is unnecessary, whereas a clearer explanation of what content is being proposed for inclusion/exclusion (perhaps in the form of diffs) would be appreciated. signed,Rosguill talk 18:25, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Done.  Serendi pod ous  18:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I removed some of the Filipino events and merged a few others. The events that I removed were not at all notable relative to the others (Example: An annual Philippines beauty pageant included on the same year that the European migrant crisis started). The IP adding this has also added an extremely excessive amount of content to 2020 in the Philippines (and other year in Philippines pages, see the histories of those pages). I'm not sure if this is possible to do for IP's but I think a warning might be necessary. Dan the Animator 19:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I already warned him. I've reported him on the edit warring noticeboard. To absolutely zero interest, apparently.  Serendi pod ous  20:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I didn't create this page
So why am I the apparently the only one watching it?  Serendi pod ous  22:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You’re just faster than anyone else :) Year and timeline articles are generally not well-patrolled though. — MarkH21talk 22:09, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

5th of December 2004?
What amazing person was born? There is not link or reference anywhere. 82.37.70.163 (talk) 14:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Probably refers to the editor who posted it. WP:SUBJECTIVE !!! Deleted. --Blurryman (talk) 23:50, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

2020 Events.
Where is the Beirut explosions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.242.235.240 (talk) 13:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)


 * @109.242.235.240
 * where is the pandemic? 162.221.219.75 (talk) 07:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Notice of group resource
I would like to invite any interested editors here to join the task force for Contemporary History. One of our core goals is to highlight and promote the coverage of contemporary history as its own distinct area here at Wikipedia.

We differ from a simple effort to cover current events, in that we seek to provide the editing community with resources that would allow it to provide broad and comprehensive coverage of articles on contemporary history as a broad topical field, rather than simply on individual current events as they may occur.

to that end, we have set up articles such as 2020s in political history, which allow the whole editing community to adopt a broad scope in keeping wikipedia updated with broad historical trends, topics and events, as they occur, but also as they become relevant to the field of history overall. I hope that sounds helpful and worthwhile to you. you are welcome to join us in any way, or to offer any input or ideas that you may wish. we welcome your input. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:48, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2022
Would you like to add this event in 2020?


 * November 10: Apple releases the first Mac computers (a new MacBook Air, Mac mini and MacBook Pro) powered by Apple silicon chips.

Here it is, with consensus and sources achieved. 2600:1010:B10A:D35E:D948:91E2:B115:74A3 (talk) 23:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

❌ Please provide reliable sources for any information you would like added. Polyamorph (talk) 08:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022
Don’t forget to add those events:


 * November 15: The Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) is signed by 15 Asia-Pacific countries to form the world's largest free-trade bloc, covering a third of the world's population.
 * November 19:
 * The Brereton Report into Australian war crimes during the War in Afghanistan is released.
 * Shuggie Bain by Douglas Stuart wins the 2020 Booker Prize.
 * November 27: Iran's top nuclear scientist, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, is assassinated near Tehran.
 * November 30:
 * A penumbral lunar eclipse occurs; the last of four lunar eclipses in 2020.
 * Protein folding, one of the biggest mysteries in biology, is solved by AlphaFold, an artificial intelligence algorithm developed by DeepMind.
 * December 1: The Arecibo Telescope of the Arecibo Observatory collapses, just weeks after the announcement of its planned demolition.
 * December 2:
 * Three activists in Hong Kong were jailed for their roles in the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests, with Joshua Wong getting the heaviest at 13.5 months.
 * The United Nations Commission on Narcotic Drugs votes to remove cannabis from a list of dangerous drugs in recognition of its medical value, although some controls will remain.
 * December 5: Roberta Tamondong of the Philippines is crowned Miss Eco Teen International 2020.
 * December 8: Nepal and China officially agree on Mount Everest's actual height, which is 8,848.86m.
 * December 15: The International Criminal Court accuses the Philippines of crimes against humanity in its war on drugs.
 * December 18: Media outlets report that astronomers have detected a radio signal, BLC1, apparently from the direction of Proxima Centauri, the closest star to the Sun.
 * December 20: The double murder of Sonia and Frank Gregorio sparks outrage and reigniting the discussion over police brutality and human rights violations in the Philippines.
 * December 21: A great conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn occurs, with the two planets separated in the sky by 0.1 degrees. This is the closest conjunction between the two planets since 1623. 2600:1010:B11B:CE88:9803:DA87:CA37:837E (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

❌ Please provide reliable sources for any information that you would like to add to the article. Polyamorph (talk) 08:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2022
In the 2007 section a new line should be added stating "October 7: The Crandon shooting occurs killing 6 victims." SkyHorseBoy (talk) 22:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Not notable in the grand scheme of things. DatGuyTalkContribs 22:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Is this list a joke?
I tried to clean some, but how can tons of local news be in a timeline of the century? Like Juanito Jose Diaz Remulla III, the son of Philippine Justice Secretary Jesus Crispin Remulla is arrested for a parcel allegedly containing ₱1.3 million worth of marijuana. Or registration of sim cards in Phillipines? Or death of a local star? This should either be cleaned or complete purged, but now it _is_ a joke. Artem.G (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * People keep unprotecting this page, and as soon as they do, the Filipino guy shows up again.  Serendi pod ous  18:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not only the Filipino guy, mass shootings in the US are so common there is no sense to include each one here. And new movies released or some team wins NBA... But I agree, it's mostly the Filipino local news that make the list ridiculously long and irrelevant. Artem.G (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * And for example, the sandy hook school shooting that isn't at all political in nature is listed, not killing that much. 2603:8001:8400:DC34:58FB:142B:B558:3297 (talk) 03:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * and October 14: Skydiver Felix Baumgartner becomes the first person to break the sound barrier without a vehicle. sounds trivial, but it should be kept due to the scientific significance, also February 9: Bong Joon-ho's Parasite becomes the first South Korean film to receive Academy Award recognitions at the 92nd Academy Awards. is trivial 2603:8001:8400:DC34:58FB:142B:B558:3297 (talk) 03:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2023
remove two points at the bottom of 2022 and 2021, about K-pop and P-pop respectively because it is not real history and has no relevance. (or at least fix the grammar) Leangucoo (talk) 07:10, 9 June 2023 (UTC)


 * done. Artem.G (talk) 07:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

How "important" does a country need to be for the election of its head of state to be mentioned?
Can we establish an objective criterion? Perhaps a member of the G20?  Serendi pod ous  16:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * even this is not sufficient - in previous year UK got three PMs. Is it that important who became a PM/President in a democratic country after non-controversial elections? Artem.G (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you saying we should remove all uncontroversial transfers of power?  Serendi pod ous  14:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * why not? There is no strict rules here, but I don't see how it's a defining event of a year if there is nothing prominent about it. First democratic elections in a new democracy is important, second one is very important, but 52 is just local news. Artem.G (talk) 14:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I've removed the elections, keeping the "firsts". The only election I kept was Kim Jong Un's, since that "election" was really a monarchical succession. I've also removed the Olympics, again excluding "firsts".  Serendi pod ous  12:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

POINT OF ORDER: Many countries, including the UK, the first one mentioned here, don't elect their head of state. HiLo48 (talk) 00:17, 16 June 2023 (UTC)


 * fair, but should uncontroversial transfers of power be mentioned? And the head of the ruling party is elected by party members (in UK), though of course I agree that it's not general elections. Artem.G (talk) 07:38, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that head of state in the UK (and in many other countries) is the monarch, i.e. Not elected at all. HiLo48 (talk) 22:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * In the UK, you elect your head of government.  Serendi pod ous  00:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Indirectly, yes, but this thread isn't about the head of government. It's about the head of state. They are not the same thing. HiLo48 (talk) 04:00, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2023
so i want to add the date of when the MMO game "Monkey Quest" was released by Nickelodeon. SW007SC (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 03:15, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Remove repeated event
2018 section has a repeated event.


 * June 24: Saudi Arabia allows women to drive.
 * Saudi Arabia allows women to drive.

I think the second point should be deleted unless it is somehow intentional. SirSailfish9 (talk) 16:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Rules, rules, rules
This section is such a hodgepodge work. I suggest the following guide:


 * 1) The list should contain major political, economic, cultural, scientific, technological and natural events.
 * 2) The events should be consequential, if not on a global scale, then at least on a local scale.
 * 3) If not consequential, then having a major transient impact

Positive examples:

- wars, coups, major floods (an example of a transient impact), elections of leaders in USA, China, Russia, megaprojects like satellite constellations, major space telescopes and reusable rockets, AI and the Moon programs (both the Chinese and the American). Examples of major local political events are the election of Bukele in El Salvador and the "Wagner" mutiny in Russia.

Negative examples:

The release of GTA 5, airplane crashes, minor terrorist attacks, Apple's MacBooks, launches of crews to ISS... These all are currently listed items. There some that are outright wrong, like "National Ignition Facility achieves first fusion ignition" - what was CLAIMED to be achieved is energy breakeven. 91.139.166.157 (talk) 14:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)