Talk:Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war/Archive 1

Draftify this?
Does not seem to be completely ready yet. We can add a few more bare bones in draft space and move it back here later.  Bremps  ...  19:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Unlike Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic & Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine the NYT published a detailed, minute-by-minute timeline of the first day, so that's what I began with. These are extremely fast-moving events; other timelines shall undoubtedly burgeon in retrospect. kencf0618 (talk) 10:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Do make sure you are editing content in a way that does not sound like a copy-paste. Otherwise you could get flagged/sanctioned by other editors for copyright violations. Borgenland (talk) 17:01, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

As of 2:10 IST
This is the most difficult material I've worked with since Suicide of Amanda Todd. I happened to awaken at 1:50 a.m. MDT (0750 UTC) to some eight pages of BBC rolling coverage, and I haven't even gotten to The Guardian, WSJ, NYT as of yet. I am concerned about Due weight & Neutral point of view and, for the lack of a better phrase, the evenness of the round-the-clock editing. As it is for this tranche of my editing I used page 8 of the BBC's rolling coverage, and then skipped to page 1. And I would like to get ahead of these issues. kencf0618 (talk) 09:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Institute for the Study of War
They, too, have a timeline, and a most excellent one.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-15-2023

kencf0618 (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Grammar
Are demanded -> have demanded 82.36.70.45 (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

October 18 section unclear
Please edit October 18 section for clarity - states "Nearly 800 people have been killed." Certainly more people had been killed at that point in total - I think this comes from the Aljazeera source, which states:

"“All of us recognise the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people, and support equal measures of justice and freedom for Israelis and Palestinians alike,” [the joint statement] said, without calling for a ceasefire in Gaza where nearly 800 people were killed by then."

So please add clarity to the assertion above. That said, if my memory is correct, this number might be an underestimation-- further research may be required.

(Sorry for any mistakes in my talk-post formatting - new at this) Brentmobbs (talk) 16:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

October 21 source 118
The section says Israel asked its citizens to leave Lebanon. There is no Israeli citizens in Lebanon. I think the authors meant Jordan. Mikealshaikh (talk) 15:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

The UN and Other Fire Hoses; I Take My Leave
We'll probably need a reliable source with a overview of what the UN has been up to. I've so many tabs open the chronology is difficult to parse, trying to go back and slot in the resolutions and their permutations.

https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15445.doc.htm

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/us-vetoes-brazil-humanitarian-resolution-on-gaza-but-why-did-russia-abstain/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/18/us-vetoes-un-resolution-calling-for-humanitarian-pause-in-israel-hamas-war

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/us-resists-ceasefire-call-in-un-security-council-debate-on-israel-gaza-war?traffic_source=rss

Furthermore:

BBC live coverage: 8 pages.

The Guardian: 5 pages.

And those are just the enumerated of the eight news sources I've routinely been using. This is third timeline I've curated, and it's never been my intent with any of them to be the omnibus editor indefinitely.

I'm walking away from it now.

Good luck.

kencf0618 (talk) 14:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 October 2023
Remove specific times under 'October 7' before events, to better reflect the styling of the rest of the page in its' current format. (i.e. 6:08: President Joe Biden spoke with Netanyahu and expressed his condolences and support, later declaring during a speech that U.S. support for Israel was "...solid and unwavering". would generally be written the same, but with '6:08' removed.

As a side note, the section for October 7th is missing a lot of needed sourcing, preferably un-paywalled. The rest of the article has ample sourcing, with some events even having multiple sources as is per standard. October 7 should reflect the same level of sourcing, given that it was the first day of the conflict. Fawndering (talk) 11:11, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The times are very important to the events of 7 Oct, but much less so to all the other days. Jim 2 Michael (talk) 00:43, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 October 2023
Change "Over 4000 Gazan's are reported dead by the Gaza Health Ministry." to "Over 4000 Gazans are reported dead by the Gaza Health Ministry." (i.e. removal of apostrophe). Fwaff (talk) 21:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Tollens (talk) 08:37, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

This article needs quite a bit of improvement
For example, yesterday on October 28 the IDF "expanded ground operations" in northern Gaza but this article hasn't been updated. Also from Portal:Current events, there are quite a few airstrikes that could be added to the timeline. I'd probably do this if I wasn't busy but I'll leave this note here for the time being. Nythar (💬-🍀) 16:55, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 October 2023
Change "prime minister Gideon Sa'ar" to "Israeli minister without portfolio Gideo Sa'ar". ZiZu12 (talk) 16:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 00:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Needs serious restructuring
This page needs to be thoroughly checked again. Too many copy paste violations from websites, WP:QUOTEFARM, WP:RECENTISM and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER entries and redundant entries on different dates about items that happened on the same date. Also taking issue with overreliance on Youtube and Twitter sources that enable such questionable editing. All in all this is a serious negation of the Manual of Style that has so far discouraged me from contributing to this article, unlike similar Timelines of recent conflicts. Borgenland (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

50 Year anniversary of Yom Kippur war
The Yom Kippur War started on the 6th of October, and the first attack in this war was on the 7th of October. The introduction claims it started on the anniversary of the war, which isn't true, it was a day later. Nicholas (talk) 12:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Removed it just now. Borgenland (talk) 13:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

First source seems to have nothing to do with the article
The first source cited seems to be about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Can someone remove this source and add a Citation needed tag? I am on the following version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war&oldid=1183505065 Abortthieu (talk) 22:11, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding useful context for entry on Amihai Eliyahu
I think this entry



should be updated with adding the context from his Wikidia article

Like so:



Currently, I think it paints a picture of a nuclear attack being actually on the table, whereas with the added context it indicates that it's actually not on the table for the Israeli government. Meerpirat (talk) 11:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Done. Borgenland (talk) 13:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Meerpirat (talk) 10:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Wrong Burns
The November 9 section links to the wrong William J. Burns. 104.33.134.66 (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Fixed already. Borgenland (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Wrong date of incident
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/israel%E2%80%93hamas-war-iran-updates

Move "The al-Qassam brigades fired a "Mutabar" missile at an Israeli drone near Khan Yunis." from October 30th to October 15th and link "Mutabar" with an existing article, Mutabar. N niyaz (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Timelines is missing mention of atrocities committed at Israeli villages on October 7
the timelines for October 7 fails to mention the 22 Israeli communities attacked by Hamas or the atrocities committed there. It only mentions the music festival. Atrocities occurred at Beeri, Kfar Aza, and over 20 other locations 68.193.48.39 (talk) 14:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Child and elderly hostages missing from article
Hamas took over 240 civilians hostage. This includes elderly, and over 30 children, including children only a month old. This needs to be mentioned. 68.193.48.39 (talk) 14:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Investigation of CNN, AP and Reuters actions need to be mentioned
CNN, Reuters and AP had journalists on the scene at the border fence the moment Hamas breached it and also with Hamas as they entered Israeli villages and committed atrocities. The investigation into how or if these journalists were aware of the planned war crimes and did nothing to prevent or even warn of this before they occurred is under investigation 68.193.48.39 (talk) 14:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Citations? kencf0618 (talk) 14:52, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not the right article for this. This is not a feature/special analysis article. Suggest the Media coverage or Disinformation section. Borgenland (talk) 15:53, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Weekly Death Toll?
The Gaza Health Ministry's daily accounting is WP:Recentism (arguably), so whose week should we use? Middle East Eye is I think using the Islamic calendar for this.

kencf0618 (talk) 14:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * "The Gaza Health Ministry" is Hamas run, its nunbers cannot be relied on since tgey cannot be independently verified 68.193.48.39 (talk) 14:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Plenty of reliable sources use Hamas' numbers —The Times of Israel even specifies "Hamas-run", as does ISW. WP:VNT applies.kencf0618 (talk) 12:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Use of the word "militants" rather than "terrorists" is biased
Hamas attacked civilian targets on October 7. They themselves filmed it and publicized it. One who attacks civilians is a terrorist not a militant 68.193.48.39 (talk) 14:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * So the IDF is what exactly ... ? Please see MOS:TERRORIST. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Whom the militants in Gaza are fighting. I'm not being facetious. There was a terrorist attack in Israel. Israel declared war. It's professional armed forces vs non-state actors in Gaza currently, and too, partially a matter of geography. Words matter. Definitions matter. kencf0618 (talk) 12:34, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Multiple sources mistaken or erroneous
1, 176, 181 do not relate to the claims referenced or are broken. Suggest deletion and replacement with citation needed. Wohak (talk) 02:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

VIP Are Not Seers
I'm wary of anyone characterizing the progress of... whatever. What might happen, what might be happening, etc. My decided preference is to stick to actual events. I don't care if President Biden or Prime Minister Netanyahu or Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim Al Thani severally or individually or simultaneously announce that "the sheriff is near". Non-events are not notable. kencf0618 (talk) 16:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree. These are horribly speculative on their part and will require massive rewriting if the outcome happens to be the opposite. Borgenland (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Filipino hostages
The last Filipino hostage has been released as of 28 November, but western sources are saying they are all Thai. Need other clearer sources for this. For reference: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/29/23/filipino-national-noralyn-babadilla-freed-by-hamas

Borgenland (talk) 01:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Shipping News
One-stop shopping. These are very complex events with a lot of initial information coming out immediately, after all.

https://www.tradewindsnews.com/bulkers/houthis-step-up-red-sea-attacks-targeting-string-of-merchant-and-naval-vessels/2-1-1564737 kencf0618 (talk) 10:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 December 2023
Change "Red Crescent ambulances were deliberately struck by the IAF" to "Red Crescent ambulances were struck by the IAF"

The source provided does not state that it was a deliberate action. Also, the source used is an Islamic-funded source. Mrfishysalmon (talk) 03:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've checked the source and can confirm it does not say it was deliberate, only accused, and have removed the text as requested. Lewcm Talk to me! 14:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

"Re'im secular kibbutz"
All kibbutz are secular (I mean, 95% of them), so It's not fitting the text It's like writing "The secular town in Japan". אקסינו (talk) 16:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Good catch. I read up on the provenance of the kibbutz and deleted "secular" as being redunant. (And whilst I have your attention - why the heck isn't there a Hebrew timeline‽) kencf0618 (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Parliament building
Please add to "15 November":

→ "Gaza's Parliament building was bombed and destroyed by IDF ground forces after being taken over the day before."
 * sources:
 * https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/military-demolishes-hamas-parliament-building-in-gaza-city
 * https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/1397151/article/2023-11-15/le-parlement-de-gaza-detruit-par-l-armee-israelienne-au-lendemain-de-sa-conquete
 * https://www.thedailybeast.com/israeli-troops-blow-up-gaza-parliament-building-report
 * ✅ Aaron Liu (talk) 18:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

November 17 & 19 entries on Jenin events
The account of the events in Jenin on November 17 and November 19 is missing several important details.

An article in The Guardian dated November 17 reports that Israeli forces killed Hamas militants during a raid in Jenin. This information is attributed to both Hamas and Israeli military sources.

However, the current entry on Wikipedia about the Jenin events only references the IEDs set off by the Al-Quds Brigade, which seemingly had a minor impact on the battle. Benabuya2 (talk) 10:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Begocci (talk) 15:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Change "The Jenin brigade of the al-Quds brigades detonated IEDs targeting Israeli forces during a raid against Palestinian fighters and weapons manufacturing sites" to "Israel kills Hamas militants in Jenin raid".
 * Source: The Guardian.
 * It's misleading to focus on the failed IEDs in this one-sided battle. Benabuya2 (talk) 09:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Arabic#Houthi_vis-%C3%A0-vis_Houthis
Stayed tuned. kencf0618 (talk) 15:12, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Detailed Maritime Traffic in Real Time
Excellent resource. No paywall unless you really want to drill down into the details.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:757694/mmsi:636018562/imo:9336165/vessel:MSC_PALATIUM_III kencf0618 (talk) 16:12, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Al Fakhoora school bombing on 18 November
Currently the first bullet states that "The IDF hit the UN-affiliated Al Fakhoora school housing thousands of displaced Palestinians in the Jabalia camp in northern Gaza, killing more than 200 according to the Gaza Ministry of Health", but the source is a Youtube short (!) of the Turkish channel TRT world.

There is a dedicated page on the issue, Al-Fakhoora school airstrikes, with a more reputable source (AFP) and a different number (50), also according to the Gaza ministry of health. Yuval Filmus (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ * Pppery * it has begun... 19:37, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 December 2023
15 December, replace the this line: The IAF launched its first major attack...

The IDF launched its first major attack... 2601:801:381:61B0:7B6C:2012:310B:263C (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✔️ by someone else. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:37, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Holy Family Church, Gaza
Please use the proper link at "16 December" -- Holy Family Church, Gaza 93.211.220.226 (talk) 22:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-church-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html
 * https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/16/women-killed-at-holy-family-parish-gaza-israel/


 * Done. kencf0618 (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Concerns regarding WP:NPOV
I'd like to bring up my concerns regarding potential WP:NPOV issues regarding this article, as I had just corrected this edit made by @Chomik1129 which I found to be written in a biased manner. When I was initially looking through this timeline, the passage added by this person in particular caught my attention and left me confused due to Israel's rejection towards ceasefire in the past. Upon checking the source they provided, its opening sentence of "Hamas rejected an Israeli offer to stop fighting for one week in exchange for dozens of hostages ," seems to be completely different from what Chomik1129 wrote as "Israel's proposal to implement a ceasefire".

Given how easily I noticed this, I'm concerned about there possibly being more instances in this article which include clear NPOV issues and biased articulation of sources (which result in presenting wrong information on the article), especially through edits done by this editor. For the editor in question, you cannot just call a proposal for a temporary halt in fighting in exchange for hostages as a proposal for ceasefire. Those two are not the same. Not only is this a huge difference between the source and the article (which, given the controversial nature of this situation, should absolutely not be done), it makes the entire sentence confusing in the first place. Thanks. B3251 (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. An omnibus WP:IDONTLIKEIT is a mere panchreston [] kencf0618 (talk) 16:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC).
 * This in of itself isn't a "change X to Y request" because I had already changed Chomik1129's wording of "implementation of a ceasefire" to what the source actually said, to "temporary stop fighting in exchange for hostages"; I should've mentioned this earlier, so my bad. I am bringing up a genuine concern regarding WP:NPOV which has nothing to do with WP:IDONTLIKEIT though. B3251 (talk) 16:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Veraval Attacks; Her Details
Not only is this an extremely volatile and dynamic situation, and have a decided I tendency to plug in the incidents a day late. My apologies, and thanks for the constant corrections! Living on MST (UTC-7) as I do, and trying to make of multiple incomplete reports is not an easy task, particularly since the assorted news outlets don't frame events on the UTC news cycle...

Secondly, I'm focusing on the maritime dimension for a while. In that wise I plan to parentheticalize each ship's provenance (for lack of a better word), viz: Flag, owner(s), management/operator, national composition of crew, and nature of Israeli-linkage. Sound good? kencf0618 (talk) 15:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * It’s ok. That latest ship attacked is still confusing though now that contradictory names have come out. Borgenland (talk) 17:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Which was flagged what was the issue I'd heard about. In any case once the Facts Are Known™ I'll update them accordingly—I'd rather avoid rolling corrections. Chronological Citation Holder (CCH): ➮ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-67811929 kencf0618 (talk) 12:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 December 2023
add a link on 25 December to Sayyed Razi Mousavi. 2A02:908:456:CC40:FCE3:C8FC:D6CE:F547 (talk) 21:19, 25 December 2023 (UTC) 2A02:908:456:CC40:FCE3:C8FC:D6CE:F547 (talk) 21:19, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done M.Bitton (talk) 01:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

UN Aid resolution
Since this page is protected, I'd like to request that a reference to the fact that a UN resolution for aid into Gaza was adopted on Friday 22 July, i.e. United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2720. That seems like a significant event related to this war that is not included here. --197.91.156.108 (talk) 14:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 December 2023
On the December 28 section there are some typo issues. Please fix them as soon as possible. Thank you. 2604:3D08:9482:1C00:3C35:B7E0:7220:31FB (talk) 02:46, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I fixed one here. Is there anything else? -- 94rain  Talk  02:51, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Spelling error on December 31st section
There is a spelling error in this section. Instead of saying "bringing" it says "brining", i would edit it myself but it's locked. Xsemth (talk) 14:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Somebody fixed it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 January 2024
Change "atleast" to "at least" in 4th bullet point under the 12 January heading. DEI0001 (talk) 20:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit for January 13
In "and three other Palestinian teenagers were killed in the illegal Adora settlement, west of Hebron" it doesn't mention that those three Palestinians were trying to break in the settlement. Even in Ynet and Haartz they wrote about it. So shouldn't there be an edit? רונלד15 (talk) 00:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 January 2024
On the 19 January section it says "Israeli sir strike" Please fix this to "Israeli air strike" Thank you. 2604:3D08:9482:1C00:1418:97C3:79FC:B610 (talk) 23:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 01:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Possible undue weight?
I see that almost every day we update the numbers of dead on each side. This highlights the numbers, which are roughly 200 and 20k, respectively. This is 100 Palestinians for each Israeli. Considering that Israel disputes the 20k number and that its sources might be controlled by Hamas, would this constitute undue weight with unreliable numbers? Just asking. 82.36.70.45 (talk) 16:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 January 2024
Add this: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-proposes-2-month-fighting-pause-gaza-release-all-hostages-axios-2024-01-22/ PaFtrSickl (talk) 13:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 15:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 January 2024
Change: "12 people were killed by Israeli tank fire on a UN shelter housing thousands of displaced civilians in Khan Yunis."

To: "The UN said that 12 people were killed by tank fire on a UN shelter housing thousands of displaced civilians in Khan Yunis. Israel denied responsibility and said it was investigating the incident." Teneab (talk) 15:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 19:11, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 January 2024
Please add the 30 January section. Thank you. Redoctopus2013 (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone's added something, weird request to just add a header with no content though Cannolis (talk) 18:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 February 2024
On the second bullet point please correct "shcool" to "school". Thank you Phuocphuc46 (talk) 00:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Split request
Split into Timeline of the Israel—Hamas war (1 January 2024 – present) and Timeline of the Israel—Hamas war (7 October 2023 – 31 December 2023) Lukt64 (talk) 19:14, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I would recommend adding info about the killed 6 year old Hind Rajab for Feb 10. It has gone very viral today
Title 94.204.161.137 (talk) 20:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 February 2024
Change "that targeted a crowd waiting for food aid near Al-Rashid Street, south of Gaza City" to "while waiting for food aid near Al-Rashid Street, south of Gaza City". Andyfeldmanis (talk) 10:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done This sentence has been completely replaced since the request was opened. Please open another request if you see obvious problems in the new wording. If you would like to request changes beyond fixing obvious problems please open a discussion seeking consensus for the changes, as this is a contentious event and major changes are likely to be challenged. Jamedeus (talk) 00:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

First Citation is Incorrect
The first citation links to an ISW article about Russia. I believe it should link to this article about October 7th instead: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-special-edition-october-7-2023 CoastalPlane (talk) 05:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Fifth timeline selection
Just a suggestion, with the recent Iranian strikes on Israel, I propose a fifth selection of Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war to be created named 'Iranian Escalation'

07:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.160.146.146 (talk)

Euromed
Source number 14, a press release by the little-known organization Euromed Human Rights Monitor, makes the claim that 90% of Gazan victims are civilians. To back this up, it says the number is " based on field documentation" with no further details. Is this reliable?ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 13:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)