Talk:Timothy Bradley

Proposal: change no contest to win for bradley
I dont think one decision by California State Athletic Commission should speak for the whole boxing world. All references agree Bradley dominated the frist 3 rounds in the fight againnst nate campbell, and the referee also ruled it a win for Bradley. Either of the following decisions should be used instead of No Contest:

Someone65 (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Technical decision
 * Referee technical decision

There is a lot of mess in that section. The Lamont Petersen fight is under the Bradley-Campbell fight.

About the Bradley-Campbell fight: the fight is officially a No Contest. That is California State Athletic Comission that decides that, not random fans. The rules states very clearly, that if a fight is stopped before the end of the fourth round by a cut caused by an accidental headbutt, it is a No Contest. So everything is according to the rules. So I will bring this section in order in a couple of days, if there are no protests.

Fightdane (talk) 08:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be Bradley's Victory, he was the better fighter in those first 3 rounds it should be counted as TD. The referee ruled it as a win so it should be a win. It looks bad on his record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.50.94 (talk) 02:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Bradley is a cheat! He didn't deserve to get the belt! Everyone knows Pacquiao won and he even knows that. I hate Timothy Bradley and whoever else cheated to help him win! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.108.147 (talk) 05:45, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Fighting out of?
For the Bradley-Alexander fight, he was announced as fighting out of North Palm Springs. I think that is where he is always announced as fighting out of. Is there any reason not to change the first sentence to reflect that?--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 20:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Vegan diet?
Shouldn't Bradley's vegan diet be mentioned on the page? There are various sources affirming that he views it as very important to his training: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204520204577247533423440946.html http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/2/28/2829768/pacquiao-vs-bradley-timothy-bradley-vegan-diet-next-fight-boxing-news — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.172.205.125 (talk) 06:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC) '''

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Source:[7] Writer	Agency	Scorecard	Winner 1	Barry Tompkins	Showtime	       119-110	Pacquiao 2	Harold Lederman	HBO	               119-109	Pacquiao 3	Ray Markarian	The Sweet Science	119-109	Pacquiao 4	Michael Marley	Examiner	       119-109	Pacquiao 5	Dan Rafael	ESPN	               119-109	Pacquiao 6	Vittorio Tafur	San Francisco Chronicle	119-109	Pacquiao 7	Michael Woods	The Sweet Science	119-109	Pacquiao 8	Ramon Aranda	3 More Rounds	       118-110	Pacquiao 9	Mario Cabrera	Boxing Republic	       118-110	Pacquiao 10	Nigel Collins	ESPN	               118-110	Pacquiao 11	Mike Coppinger	Ring Magazine	       118-110	Pacquiao 12	Ace Freeman	Fight Fan	       118-110	Pacquiao 13	Rich Marotta	KFI Los Angeles	       118-110	Pacquiao 14	Kelsey McCarson	The Sweet Science	118-110	Pacquiao 15	Gabriel Montoya	MaxBoxing	       118-110	Pacquiao 16	Pete O’Brien	USA Today	       118-110	Pacquiao 17	Eric Raskin	Grantland	       118-110	Pacquiao 18	Michael Rosenthal	Ring Magazine	118-110	Pacquiao 19	Colin Seymour	Examiner	       118-110	Pacquiao 20	Ryan Songalia	Ring Magazine	       118-110	Pacquiao 21	Ryan Burton	Boxing Scene	       117-111	Pacquiao 22	Scott Christ	Bad Left Hook	       117-111	Pacquiao 23	Tim Dahlberg	Associated Press	117-111	Pacquiao 24	Gareth Davies	London Daily Telegraph	117-111	Pacquiao 25	Doug Fischer	Ring Magazine	       117-111	Pacquiao 26	David Greisman	Boxing Scene	       117-111	Pacquiao 27	Jorge Hernandez	The Low Blow	       117-111	Pacquiao 28	Kevin Iole	Yahoo! Sports          117-111	Pacquiao 29	Robert Littal	Black Sports Online	117-111	Pacquiao 30	Steve Kim	Max Boxing	       117-111	Pacquiao 31	Ryan Maquiñana	Comcast SportsNet Bay Area 117-111	Pacquiao 32	David Mayo	MLive	               117-111	Pacquiao 33	Kieran Mulvaney	HBO	               117-111	Pacquiao 34	Lance Pugmire	Los Angeles Times	117-111	Pacquiao 35	Chris Robinson	Boxing Scene	       117-111	Pacquiao 36	Cliff Rold	Boxing Scene	       117-111	Pacquiao 37	Champ Ross	Da Truth Boxing 	117-111	Pacquiao 38	Luis Sandoval	Boxing Scene	       117-111	Pacquiao 39	Jonathan Sakti	Comcast SportsNet Bay Area 117-111	Pacquiao 40	Tim Starks	Queensberry Rules	117-111	Pacquiao 41	Richie Tomassini	Comcast SportsNet Bay Area	117-111	Pacquiao 42	Darren Velasco	8 Count News	       117-111	Pacquiao 43	Rick Reeno	Boxing Scene	       116-112	Pacquiao 44	George Willis	New York Post	       116-112	Pacquiao 45	Steve Zemach	Queensberry Rules	116-112	Pacquiao 46	Salmaan Ahmed	Fight Today UK	       116-112	Pacquiao 47	Armando Alvarez	Telemundo	       115-113	Pacquiao 48	Jake Donovan	Boxing Scene	       115-113	Pacquiao 49	Lem Satterfield	Ring Magazine	       115-113	Pacquiao 50	Thomas Hauser	HBO	               115-114	Bradley 51	Bart Barry	HBO	               116-115	Bradley 52	Brian Kenny	Top Rank	       116-112	Bradley 53	Springs Toledo	The Sweet Science	117-112	Pacquiao 54	Michael Galvin	RAF	               116-112	Pacquiao

Total: Pacquiao 51, Bradley 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.205 (talk) 00:48, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Professional Record
Is the Bradley vs. Pacquio content in the note section necessary? Makes it all bunched up and unorganized. Just leave that in the section about the fight and not the professional record section. -Mcanmoocanu 20:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. The WBO review doesn't belong in the notes section.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 07:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested Move
It has been proposed in this section that Timothy Bradley be renamed and moved to Timothy Bradley, Jr.. Timothy Bradley → Timothy Bradley, Jr. – The fighter appears to go by Jr. example his twitter https://twitter.com/Timbradleyjr and official website http://timothydesertstormbradley.com/

Opposed. Reliable sources don't use the jr. For example. That is also how he is listed in Boxrec.com.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The majority of sources suggest Timothy Bradley is the WP:COMMONNAME. Zarcadia (talk) 22:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

WBO junior-welterweight champion
Read Timothy Bradley beats Devon Alexander to win WBC super-lightweight title. It says WBO junior-welterweight title and WBC super-lightweight.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That doesn't explain anything. Junior welterweight is just another name for Light welterweight. The official way to categorize it is Light Welterweight. Even your precious boxrec list it that way . And all these links you keep posting when I gave you links and articles proving Tim bradley goes by Jr. but you didn't seem to care about that so why should I about this? --2Nyce (talk) 13:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, junior welterweight is the same weight class as light welterweight. Who made the name official? The WBO calls it the junior welterweight division. When listing a championship, we should use the name that is actually written on the belt. For example "Bradley opted to keep the WBO junior welterweight title."


 * BoxRec has their own way for doing a whole lot of things that I don't agree with. If you would like to rename this article please discuss it in a seperate section. I do care about what it is named and if the WP:commonname is Jr. we should change it.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 20:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The most respected boxing publication The Ring uses WBO junior welterweight. For example in |Q&A: Bradley eyes Pacquiao, discusses drug testing it says "RingTV.com spoke to WBO junior welterweight titleholder Tim Bradley..."--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 19:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

3O Response: Generally this would be the name you would then use (as long as other sources were in agreement aswell). Check out WP:TITLE for other reasoning used to choose article titles that may or may not be applicable. Nbound (talk) 22:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Other sources are in agreement on using "WBO junior welterweight" when discussing the title. The New York Times writes "He was referring to the W.B.O. junior welterweight champion Timothy Bradley ..." in . As shown above, The Guardian, The Ring and the WBO write it this way.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Neither Don King's hair or TwoNyce have a clue what the format of weight divisions, titles, and record tables should be.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.111.119.202 (talk) 11:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Requested Move II

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved. The nominator withdrew his request. Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 00:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Timothy Bradley → Timothy Bradley, Jr. – Sources to implicate name change. The same thing that is done with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Roy Jones, Jr. should be done here. relisted Tiggerjay (talk) 06:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC) --2Nyce (talk) 16:29, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose Those are two reliable sources that use the Jr. Here are more that don't: The New York Times, USA Today , The Guardian and BoxRec.com.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 18:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment His own website has him as "Tim" Bradley Jr., so I think that holds more say than any other source out there. Even his own personal twitter reads "Timothy Bradley Jr". --2Nyce (talk) 20:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * On the homepage of his web site I see "Timothy ″Desert Storm″ Bradley" once, "Timothy Bradley" three times, "Tim Bradley" once, "Tim Bradley Jr." once and "Timothy Bradley, Jr." zero times.--Don King&#39;s hair (talk) 19:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Go read again. His own personal twitter and im gonna put the link for you AGAIN reads "Timothy Bradley Jr." I rest my case --2Nyce 15:20, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose - the naming convention should be based on what their WP:COMMONNAME is. Based on the majority of references used in the article itself, they make no mention of the suffix, Jr. As such I am inclined to leave the article as it currently is. The subjects preference for the inclusion of Jr is of minor significance here. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.