Talk:Tiro ao Álvaro

Nothing "Italian" here
This article used to tell us that this song was written in a supposed Italian-Portuguese pidgin that would be spoken in São Paulo city by Italian immigrants. That's a complete mistification. Below areSeragm18 (talk) 19:24, 15 October 2016 (UTC) the differences between this song's language and Standard Portuguese:


 * "frechada" instead of "flechada"


 * While it is true that "flecha" in Italian is "freccia", this kind of popular rotacism can be found in practically all of Brazil; some speculate it is related to the absence of the phoneme /l/ in Tupi-Guarani. On the other hand, it is also a somewhat archaic variation in Standard Portuguese, originated in Portugal long before Italians arrived in Brazil.


 * "tauba" instead of "tábua"


 * Popular mispronounciation in most of Brazil, particularly in the Northeast. The Italian cognate is "tavola", which seems unrelated.


 * "álvaro" instead of "alvo"


 * Hypercorrection; as the anthroponym "Álvaro" is often mispronouced "Alvo", the author misconstrues the unrelated term "alvo" as "álvaro". The Italian word would be "bersaglio".


 * "peixera" instead of "peixeira"


 * Popular pronunciation, so widespread that only the most stubborn purists would raise an eyebrow.


 * "automove" (or perhaps "automóver") instead of "automóvel"


 * Popular pronunciation, widespread in Brazil. Italian word would be "automobile", with a well preserved /l/.


 * "revorve" (or perhaps "revórver") instead of "revólver"


 * Popular pronunciation, widespread in Brazil. The rotacism is characteristically Brazilian; some speculate it is related to the absence of the phoneme /l/ in Tupi-Guarani. The Italian word goes the opposite direction: "rivoltella". 201.86.158.159 (talk) 16:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)