Talk:Titanic (1997 film)

December 2023
I edited this recently, but it got reverted. I mean, we can all agree that she doesn't physically reunite with him at the end of the film, right? She's either asleep or passed away, but either way it's clear that it's a spiritual affair after the ship sank. GOLDIEM J (talk) 14:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


 * It's already mentioned that she's asleep at that point, so is it necessary to label it as spiritual? DonIago (talk) 14:36, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:FILMPLOT says to avoid interpretations. Just stick to what the movie literally shows us.
 * In this case, the movie literally shows them reuniting on the ship, so what's what we should describe in the plot summary. The reader can then decide for themselves whether this is an "actual" event or a metaphorical/spiritual/whatever event — just like the viewer decides that when watching the movie.
 * In the case of the movie, viewers will be inclined to assume it is not an "actual" event as they've just seen Rose seemingly sleeping and it would involve some kind of crazy time travel. In the case of the Wikipedia plot summary, readers will be inclined to assume it is not an "actual" event as they've just read that Rose was seemingly sleeping and it would involve some kind of crazy time travel. Same outcome, and a fair reflection of the plot. Popcornfud (talk) 14:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Retrospective section
I found the retrospective section here to be a bit odd (perhaps poorly named). This film was released in December 1997. The "retrospective" section includes one response from a French filmmaker ... made in 1998 ... and also devotes an entire paragraph to James Cameron's response to criticism ... also made in 1998.

FWIW, whether the French filmmaker's comments should be included at all is also maybe worth reconsidering. His full quotation on Winslett's performance: "On top of which, the actress is awful, unwatchable, the most slovenly girl to appear on the screen in a long, long time. That's why it’s been such a success with young girls, especially inhibited, slightly plump American girls who see the film over and over as if they were on a pilgrimage: they recognize themselves in her, and dream of falling into the arms of the gorgeous Leonard." Lots of directors through the years have spoken of Titanic ... why is that pretty flagrantly sexist comment worth highlighting?--96.94.213.161 (talk) 18:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Jon Landau
Should link to Jon_Landau_(film_producer) 2600:4040:7EDC:4600:7DB8:380B:4184:1618 (talk) 08:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)