Talk:Tiyanak

Summaries of Source Material
I am not certain if this is the place for a summary of the details of the legends we found. But since I've already typed these out for the article, I'm placing them here and soliciting comments on whether they should be on the main page or not.

By the way, these are all actually in Eugenio, and Gardner and Del Rosario are cited by Eugenio. I hope that's okay?Alternativity 17:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Gardner A woman who picks up a baby in the jungle decides to comfort it by letting it suckle from her breast. The baby bites her, and continues to suck until she is dead. The "baby" is later seen flying through the forest, apparently a Tiyanak.

Gardner, Fletcher, "Philippine (Tagalog) Superstitions", Superstitions Journal of American Folklore 19 (April-June): 191-204

Del Rosario In a Tiyanak legend from the island of Mindoro, where it is called a 'patiyanak', the creature imitates the form of a mother's recently deceased child. Believing the child had miraculously been brought back from the dead, she took it into the house and let it breastfeed. It did not stop until her milk had been sucked dry, and after that it kept suckling so that she became weak and eventually died. When the child finally let go, it suddenly turned into a black bird, cried, and flew away.

''Adelina Del Rosario (1975). "Isang Pag-aaral ng mga kuwentong bayan ng Oriental Mindoro" (MA Thesis). University of the Philippines.''

Eugenio (3rd Legend cited) The tiyanak takes the form of a fair-skinned toddler with bright shining eyes, and kidnaps a boy who was playing hide and seek with his friend on the night of a full moon (this was a common practice in rural areas of the Philippines until fairly recently). The townspeople are roused to look for him but he was not seen until the following day, in a clump of a banana trees, hugging one of the stumps. They could not get him to respond, or take him away from this prison. Finally, a priest is asked to come and bless the child and his surroundings, and only then could the child be taken home. Even then, the child was sick for a few days. when he recovers he recounts how the tiyanak took him to an enchanted place full of beautiful flowers and much food. When he finally got tired of the place and asked to go home to his mother, the tiyanak got irritated with him and left him to journey home. He did not remember how he found his way to the Banana tree stump.

In this version,
 * the solution to being led astray by one is to wear your dress inside out
 * The tiyanak:
 * comes from a baby who dies before he is baptized
 * generally misleads young folks
 * is usually invisible, but can become visible at will

''Eugenio, Damiana (2002). Philippine Folk Literature: The Legends. Quezon City: University of the Philippines Press, 490. ISBN 971-542-357-4.''

Eugenio (4th Legend cited) In a Pampango Tiyanak legend, a man is confronted by "a number of tiyanak who led [him] the wrong way." He describes them as small nut-brown people who didn't walk on the ground but rather floated on air. They had large noses, wide mouths, large fierce eyes and sharp voices. Frightened and placed under their spell, the man followed wherever the creatures led him.

''Eugenio, Damiana (2002). Philippine Folk Literature: The Legends. Quezon City: University of the Philippines Press, 490. ISBN 971-542-357-4.''

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"Commonly in the Philippines"?
I don't understand the rationale behind adding the phrase "Commonly in the Philippines" to the lead, It seems redundant to me. At present, it reads "Commonly in the Philippines, the tiyanak (also tianak or tianac) is creature which, in Philippine mythology, imitates the form of a child." I'd like to hear from others rather than revert it myself, though, as perhaps I am only missing some nuance in the sentence. Alternativity (talk) 09:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks vague and redundant. I undid the revision.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Alternativity (talk) 14:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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