Talk:To Be Loved (Adele song)/Archive 1

Requested move 13 July 2022

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The result of the move request was: withdrawn by nominator. ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍  ‍ 💬reach out to me 📝see my work 08:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

– Alright, we got a newly created song article named "To Be Loved" (by Adele), and it turns out that there is another song article named "To Be Loved"... kind of. The song article that came first is actually titled "...To Be Loved" with the ellipsis at the beginning. Now I am extremely sure either "...To Be Loved" or "To Be Loved (Adele song)" need to be renamed and have their disambiguator modified, though I have no idea which one should be moved.
 * To Be Loved (Adele song) → ?
 * ...To Be Loved → ?

Per WP:DIFFPUNCT. Is the title "...To Be Loved" sufficiently distinguishable enough from "To Be Loved (Adele song)" that we can simplify the latter to "To Be Loved (song)" ? Or, on the other hand, is it not distinguishable enough, and it would be necessary to disambiguate "...To Be Loved" with the artist name (Papa Roach) ? I am perfectly fine with either solution, though I have my personal preference, which can be seen below. ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍  ‍ 💬reach out to me 📝see my work 05:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC) 📝see my work 05:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC) 📝see my work 05:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As the nominator, I am leaning with rename "To Be Loved (Adele song)" to "To Be Loved (song)" per DIFFPUNCT. ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍  ‍ <sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬reach out to me
 * Note: WikiProject Songs has been notified of this discussion. <b style="font-family:Georgia;border-radius:3em;padding:4px;background:#962c2e;color:white;">‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ </b> ‍ <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left"><sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬reach out to me

<sub style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">📝see my work 08:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose both: Unlikely anyone looking for the Adele song will use periods in the title, so oppose the second one. And everyone looking for the Papa Roach song cannot be expected to use periods, so oppose the first one. We'll be done here after a hatnote pointing to To Be Loved (disambiguation) is added to the Papa Roach song article.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 07:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose as far as I can see neither are ambiguous, are there multiple Adele songs? Are any others called with the 3 dots (anyone searching with the dots surely could only be looking for it).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 08:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, clearly my naivete is showing here - I read DIFFCAPS one more time and, well, I guess we can't reasonably expect folks to use periods when searching for the Papa Roach song as Marano said. I expect more folks to oppose for the same reasons if I keep this open, and since I'm the nominator I'll withdraw this request. Though I will note that "To Be Loved (song)" redirects to the Papa Roach song - will be retargeting the redirect link after I close this shortly. <b style="font-family:Georgia;border-radius:3em;padding:4px;background:#962c2e;color:white;">‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ </b> ‍ <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left"><sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬reach out to me

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DYK broke my phone
A non-technical entertainment writer isn't a source for the capabilities of smartphones, nor did he ever say that anyone's phone "nearly" broke. Reported at WP:ERRORS and removed from article. Elizium23 (talk) 01:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


 * guardian.ng appears to closely paraphrase the original Variety source, so I would not regard it as a separate, or even a reliable, source. Elizium23 (talk) 06:41, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The Guardian is a reliable source. I'm really not sure what you are looking for. Please feel free to directly suggest a hook you would like.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 06:44, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The Guardian (Nigeria) is not The Guardian of the UK. Elizium23 (talk) 06:46, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm really not sure what you are looking for. Please feel free to directly suggest a hook you would like.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 06:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm looking for some WP:V. I'm grateful that you've reworded the hook to conform to the sources, but I would still contend that there is only one valid source for this. Elizium23 (talk) 06:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I will compromise and be fine with removing it after you okay one of the other hooks. Please understand that my priority is the DYK that goes live in less than 24 hours. Kindly go through all of the alternatives at Main_Page/Errors.--06:58, 25 July 2022 (UTC)