Talk:Togoland campaign

Casualties Comment
Changed casualties as the Moberly reference was for Kamerun.Keith-264 (talk) 20:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Map of Togo
I see you have reverted my edit - I do not wish to engage in an edit war over a map, so let's talk it through here. My belief is the fact that "Togo is a colonial artefact" has very little bearing on a modern map being placed at such a prominent position - and the modern state of Togo would not come into place until half a century later, more directly through French Togoland rather than German Togoland. Isn't parts of Ghana also a colonial artefact? Does a modern map of Ghana not also warrant a place there? The partition map below is far more detailed, might have been a better map to explain the situation - and also corresponds better with the "Aftermath" section, where the future independence of Togo is mentioned.

One more thing - you have also reverted my reformatting efforts, through which I placed several images under more appropriate sections. You could have easily added back the modern Togo map - that is, unless you do not agree with reformatting either. Morningstar1814 (talk) 17:54, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for asking, The war was the origin of modern Togo and the map isn't prominent but like you, I'm constrained by the maps available. I'd prefer a map at the top of the infobox, rather than the photo too. What were the images? I didn't see them. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 18:36, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response. I would not disagree with the significance of the war to the state of Togo. The issue here is as the first map to appear in the article, it is more prominent than it should be. A modern map of Togo does little to help the reader understand the war and its aftermath better, and it may even border on being misleading - the campaign, after all, took place not only within the modern borders of Togo, and led to the creation of more than just what eventually evolved into the modern state of Togo. I thought of moving the partition map up to right below the infobox, but then I realized it was rather counter-intuitive to put the result of the war near the top - it probably belongs under the aftermath section. In fact, a modern map of Togo - regardless of its quality - would not easily fit into anywhere in this article. Does one belong under the aftermath header?


 * The "images" I was talking about can be seen in this version, the one you reverted - in which I moved the 1914 Togoland map to the background section, the Kamina radio mast image slightly further up to accommodate the partition map, which I had moved to the aftermath section. I believe those places are where they belong. Morningstar1814 (talk) 19:09, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, move them back by all means. Is there a way of getting one of the commons outline maps so show the 1914 colony and Anglo-French partition? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 21:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I do not believe we have a locator map for Togoland yet - which is arguably the case for most former countries/regions. For now I'm leaving the modern Togo map up there before a better solution can be worked out. Morningstar1814 (talk) 21:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

If you really want to take it out or move it, I'll be happy to wait for something better. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 21:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent edits
I've been surprised at the sudden interest shown in the article and had a stab at finding modern place-names to wl. I'm doubtful about at least one so I've left a note on the edit page. Regards and thanks. Keith-264 (talk) 09:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There was a discussion at WP:ERRORS as it is on the Main Page today in the WP:OTD section (26 Aug) which may explain the interest. Woody (talk) 09:36, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Do capital letters really matter? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 20:28, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Archive.org
Why the deletion of online scan? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 07:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I think my edits are clearer. "online scan" is a term that I haven't seen before -- and everything a Wikipedia reader sees is "online". Also, there is no "Archive Foundation", so  that is an error. Instead we have a scanned copy of the 1921 edition provided by Internet Archive. So when we note "via" we are giving credit to Archive.org for the scan. Thanks for the question. I hope my answer makes sense.  – S. Rich (talk) 15:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I tried "Archive.org" when I began adding it to citations but someone changed it to Archive Federation for the same reasons you have reverted it. Online scan refers to a book available to read after being scanned onto the internet, rather than a paper copy. The link means that someone is being told that they can download a copy for free. I've had a look for the Internet Foundation and can't find it so it will have to go, there's a lot of them though. ;O( Regards Keith-264 (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2023 (UTC)