Talk:Tom Pugh (cricketer)

Rubbish
Indon't know what fool edited this but Pugh was not sacked he resigned and he was not captain for all of the wins as he was injured. Get your facts from proper sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.199.159 (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * According to the obituary which appears in today's Daily Telegraph, he was sacked: "In his 80 first-class matches he scored 2,469 runs at an average of 18.56, insufficient to prevent him being sacked at the end of the 1962 season. He would rarely speak about this, but retained a residual bitterness towards the club and would not attend old players’ reunions." Tom Pugh, cricketer - obituary JH (talk page) 10:08, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Times obituary
The Times has an obituary here, but unfortunately one has to be a subscriber to read beyond the first few lines, which I'm not. I was hopying to confirm that his National Service was in the Royal Navy, which seems implied by the rackets reference mentioning his being an Able Seaman. JH (talk page) 21:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I do get the Times but its enthusiasm for Tom is no greater than mine. He seems to have failed at everything. I'll see what I can do. Here's the line about National Service which you can use. However, he also suffered a breakdown during his National Service on HMS Adamant. He was sick 19 times in the Bay of Biscay and was taken to a mental hospital in Portsmouth. Nevertheless, he made his first-class debut for Gloucestershire in 1959.   JRPG (talk) 10:39, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. JH (talk page) 18:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added something. I omitted the being sick nineteen times, as being seasick in the Bay of Biscay wouldn't necessarily imply mental illness and the linking of the two by the Times without any further explanation seemed a little odd. JH (talk page) 19:46, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree about the Bay of Biscay -my wife even managed to be seasick in the Solent once. The Navy release people who are repeatedly seasick and that must have been very distressing for him. Also agree the linking of seasickness and mental health is strange.

Statistically the most successful???
I'm no cricket expert but the Times & Telegraph are very disparaging about his skills in general & I can't believe they wouldn't have included details of his triumph. If true we must be include it, could you provide a link to the source for this? JRPG (talk) 12:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It wasn't me who made the claim, and I don't know where it comes from. However it does seem plausible, remembering that the county have never won the Championship since it was officially launched in 1890. JH (talk page) 18:24, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It turns out that it's not true. When the county finished second in 1930 they won 15 matches out of 28. (They also finished second the following year, but won fewer matches.) JH (talk page) 19:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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