Talk:Tomaso Albinoni

The Adagio
The score did not originate in a 1958 Remo Giazotto composition. You can hear it played by violin and piano as part of the soundtrack for the Chinese 19837 film "Song at Midnight" (Phantom of the Opera I), where it serves as a kind of silent aria for the Phantom. If Giazotto claims discovery, then his discovery was of someone else's recomposition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.65.26 (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source? -- Qmwne 235  22:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Giazotto is the one who made the modern composition, however, there is no doubt that it originates from Albinoni, and I find it strange that people doubt its origin. There's a lot of lies in this article here, to make Albinoni look good. I won't correct it, people just seem to want some kind of heroes instead of reality. Tomaso killed his children and his wife. Sorry but that's how the history goes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.232.221 (talk) 21:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Never heared about that... where did you red it? I think it's a lie --მოცარტი (talk) 19:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * This discussion is much better conducted at Adagio in G minor. --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  23:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

ALBINONI _ ADAGIO
Does someone know any song based on ADAGIO with a female voice in it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.198.173.79 (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJbcHlW8ovY --193.41.13.4 (talk) 12:30, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Evidence?
Wikipedia claims that the Adagio in G Minor is a hoax, that it was entirely composed by Remo Giazotto with no original material from Albinoni. However, Giazotto himself has attested that the work was reconstructed, or constructed, based on real fragments of an original work by Albinoni from the Dresden State Library. See this link on the reconstruction of the work based on the fragment:
 * http://www.carlfischer.com/Fischer/pdf/YAS61sc.pdf

Essentially what Wikipedia is saying is that Giazotto is a liar and a cheat, but that instead of trying to pass off an exquisite masterpiece written by someone else as his own work, Giazotto supposedly did the opposite - write the masterpiece himself and then claim someone else wrote it. Since Albinoni was no longer famous by the end of WW2, this claim by Wikipedia is highly suspect. No doubt Wikipedia has the evidence to back up its claim that the work is a hoax. Giazotto, a highly respected musicologist, has stated his case. The burden is now on Wikipedia to debunk it. -- Jacob Davidson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.186.27 (talk) 21:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * This discussion is much better conducted at Adagio in G minor. --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  23:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

(see discussion there over dispute on adding Nicola Schneider qualification--probably no "hoax" here. Some unnecessary edit warring going on here since Nicola Schneider is a legitimate published scholar and we need not to have only one point of view on the controversy, particularly when that point of view ("hoax") actually seems incorrect. WP:POV.   50.52.141.226 (talk) 18:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)) (MnlCls)
 * Your claims cannot be verified, they express a marginal POV, and constitute OR. The scholarly consensus is unequivocal.--Galassi (talk) 19:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Please discuss over on the Adagio talk page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adagio_in_G_minor#Did_the_Albinoni_fragments_exist_after_all.3F, where the community discussion is ongoing. Not a marginal POV (new primary source material does not constitute "marginal" POV), verifiable (can read the source for yourself, since most relevant part has been uploaded and translated from Italian), and it is NOT original research (OR) (since it is published work of scholar, discovering a new primary document that may corroborate Giazotto's account).  There is no consensus on "hoax"; only a consensus that Giazotto composed the work, which has not been denied by anyone afaik.  I see this is as a WP:NPOV violation, and the dispute has been submitted for moderation.  No reverts until mediation is complete please, or please post your contributions and objections to the community debate on the relevant talk page (the Adagio page for this topic), where relevant language on this is being hammered out.  Thank you.166.147.121.166 (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC).(MnlCls)

Protected
I've fully protected this article for two weeks due to the edit war about the Nicola Schneider claims. Please try to reach consensus on the talk page. See WP:PROTECT for the significance of protection. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Italian?
Albinoni was a Venetian composer, not an Italian one. There was no Italian nationality or nation in his era.Royalcourtier (talk) 07:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Photo of Albinoni appears to be genuine
There was a request for source of the photo for verification; I didn't find that, however - There is a matching black and white image of similarity on http://www.classicfm.com/composers/albinoni/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.54.203 (talk) 01:07, 21 November 2015 (UTC)