Talk:Tomato (firmware)

Contesting Speedy Deletion
This article is not about a person, group of people, band, club, company or website. It is about an open source firmware project. There are many similar articles on Wikipedia for other such firmware projects:


 * DD-WRT
 * HyperWRT
 * OpenWrt
 * Sveasoft
 * Chillispot
 * Earthlink
 * Freifunk
 * TinyPEAP
 * WiFi-Box
 * Neighbornode
 * Tarifa
 * WiFiDog Captive Portal
 * FON

This article is no less significant or important than the articles above.

The firmware is also listed as a major project in the WRT54G article.


 * It does seem a bit strange that this was tagged for speedy deletion. There have been some minor edit wars around wireless router firmware projects in the past, typically around a GPL-based project that is also commercial in nature. Perhaps the existence of this article evoked one of those ghosts from the past?  Since Tomato seems to be not only here to stay, but is also rapidly gaining popularity because of its stability and user interface, I'm guessing this article is also now here to stay. Mr. Zarniwoop 18:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * As a long-time user of various WRT54 firmwares, I agree with the above. Tomato is well thought-out, seems pretty stable, and has an interestingly "different" approach. I feel it will rapidly become a mainstream choice & is as worthy of a brief Wikipedia article as the others listed above. There's certainly no justification for speedy deletion of the present article, though the original one was a bit long (& seems now to have been migrated to Wikibooks, which is a reasonable place for it). As for the title, I'd go with "Tomato (firmware)". --Mjwild 18:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Tomato firmware vs. Tomato Firmware vs. Tomato (firmware)
This article should probably be called either "Tomato Firmware" as the properly capitalized name or "Tomato (firmware)" as the name differentiating it from the vegetable/fruit.

The author's site, readme, and about page uses the name "Tomato Firmware", although there are many instances where the author just uses "Tomato".

I suggest that "Tomato firmware" (with lower-case f) be a redirect page to "Tomato Firmware", and that there be a "For the open source firmware project..." type of notice added to Tomato, as there is no disambiguation article. Mr. Zarniwoop 17:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I was considering this myself earlier. I think "Tomato (firmware)" is probably the most suitable name for the article. Despite the "Tomato Firmware" title on the project's homepage, the firmware is more commonly referred to simply as "Tomato" in the documentation and the community. Cheesey 23:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, "Tomato (firmware)" is best. — 76.210.22.159 23:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Did it. Mr. Zarniwoop 04:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

That's Right
Deleting articles makes wikipedia more useful? Please explain that one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gtfrde (talk • contribs) 17:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC).
 * I agree, move towards reinstituion of tomato (firmware)--74.225.246.84 17:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Fails WP:SOFTWARE. This is an encyclopedia, not a web directory.  Dei zio  talk 22:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Redirect correctly
This article should redirect to Linksys WRT54G series instead, in order to avoid a double redirect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ehn (talk • contribs) 18:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Better yet, Linksys WRT54G series, but I'm not an Administrator. --Goldfndr (talk) 02:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There is now a very good article for Tomato at Tomato_Firmware. I think this article should now redirect there, or the content there should be moved here, and that article should redirect here. -Kzrssk (talk) 04:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

License
This article and the wikibooks page state that the GUI is under a proprietary license, but I don't see any mention of any kind of license on the official site or in the source or binary distributions. Is there a source for this? Kufat (talk) 01:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the source to some JS pages mentions that they may not be used without permission. Kufat (talk) 01:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Documentation
Documentation or links to documentation would be nice. It's hard to find anything meaningful, especially pertaining to installation (from scratch). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.98.233.229 (talk) 12:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Since there are multiple forks, it's hard to find the right one. The original website has been abandoned for many years, but it has a basic FAQ: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomatofaq - it's not clear where Jonathan originally posted the code... II  | (t - c) 06:35, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Partially free
In the presentation, it is written "Tomato is a partially free ... ", but then nothing says which part is not free (and I'm wondering). There should at least be a reference to the Tomato site.Kbenoit (talk) 21:37, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

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Supported devices table
I'm afraid I don't see the relevance of adding a table of hardware specs for every supported device, that information would seem to belong on some sort of "Comparison of consumer network routing devices" page. Can you explain your rationale behind your effort before continuing any further, please? —  ⚞ ℛogueScholar 🐈 ₨🗩 ⚟  10:20, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi there! This is rs232 from the tomato linksys forum btw aka bellocarico here on wikipedia. Yes you have the point there. Sure. Essentially what happened is that we needed to expand the Shibby (discontinued) router list from his site complementing with the new models provided by Freshtomato. We also wanted to do this in a collaborative way so using Wikipedia happened to be a natural choice. On the tomato forum we already discussed this specific point and yes I think we all agree that it would be better to moved this table somewhere onto the Freshtomato site sooner rather than later. The freshtomato.org site though is being redeployed as I speak so, if it's not a big issue, I would prefer to gather this info here until it can be moved out safely. I'm not a Wikipedia guru, but could you otherwise suggest an alternative way to have this information surviving within Wikipedia without being necessarily a consumer page as such? Thanks!

Muhstik botnet attack (2020)
Perhaps add something about the admin web authentication Muhstik botnet attack, January 2020?

This was the subject in Security Now, episode 751, 2020-01-29, 39 min 34 secs to 49 min 23 secs.

Sample: New Muhstik Botnet Attacks Target Tomato Routers (2020-01-22)

--Mortense (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2020 (UTC)