Talk:Tonality diamond

Diamond marimba's popularity
...the diamond marimba, which is laid out as a tonality diamond and which has proven rather popular.


 * Really? Where can I get one for cheap? =P ——Keenan Pepper 22:07, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Term's origin
from para. 1 "The tonality diamond is often regarded as comprising the set of consonances of the n-limit. The term is due to Harry Partch."

But the Harry Partch page states "Partch's tuning had its origin in an extended version of Max Meyer's tonality diamond..."

I don't have my copy of Genesis of A Music handy, and don't remember who Max Meyer is/was.


 * Genesis has this to say about Max Meyer:


 *  Max F. Meyer (b. 1873), psychologist, takes the trouble, in The Musician's Arithmetic, to state the case for ratios as a nomenclature for musical materials, these being the only terms "safe from ambiguity." Meyer uses what Monophony would call identities through 9 (including 7), disavows both overtones and undertones as constituting the source of tonality, and, somewhat disappointingly, applies his ideas to a "quartertone" harmonium (see Chapter 17).


 * See also Meyer's Diamond and Partch's Diamond. —Keenan Pepper 21:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. According to Cris Forster's page, Meyer's diamond looks just like Partch's, only rotated and (not to quote Spinal Tap, but) Partch's "goes to 11."  I think this line should be credited to Meyer, not Partch. Namrevlis 22:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Meyer is the authentic creator of the tonality diamond for one reason only: he studied the works of Rameau.  If you don't understand the problems faced by Rameau, you won't understand the solutions offered by Meyer.  -Cris Forster

Illustration of 7-limit Tonality Diamond
The tonality diamond illustrated does not match the description, in that the 3 and 5 columns (and their associated inverses) replace each other. It does match Harry Partch's Diamond Marimba, but I think it would be better if the tonality diamond were in canonical form. Does anyone have a problem with me changing it? --Eraticus 06:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

And Music?
Would somebody state what this has to do with music in the main definition, pretty please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.201.194.156 (talk) 18:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

7-limit tonality diamond with audio
Hyacinth (talk) 07:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)