Talk:Tone policing/Archive 1

Citation needed
I put a citation needed note on the final paragraph. It sounds like self-talk or polemics, and it is non-encyclopedic. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 18:52, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Old proverb
I remember a proverb saying something like "The one who shouts is always wrong". It is something that people tell children in order to discourage them from forcing their will by temper tantrums. I understand the objective, but this proverb can as well be used for tone policing - if you prematurely assume that the one who freaks out first must be on the wrong end of an argumentation. In general, the one who resorts to shouting first demonstrates a lack of impulse control but is not necessarily wrong. This is true for children and for adults.

Does somebody know the proverb and where it came from? It could potentially be added to the article as an example. --2003:E7:7732:BF71:110:F5C:6C89:84FE (talk) 23:01, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Ideologic
This article is political ideologic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.217.170.75 (talk) 08:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Widening the scope
I think this article could benefit from covering tone arguments, as they've been discussed in rhetoric and philosophy, more broadly. The term "tone policing" is probably a social-justice coinage, but meta-arguments about the validity of arguing with people about their tone must be vastly older than the modern social-justice movement. I can see the Far Side comic now: one caveman says to the other "You no steal Thag's rock!" and the other replies "Thag being rude!" —Kodiologist (t) 14:50, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Weak sources
The claim that tone policing is often directed towards women relies on only one citation. This is a rather stark claim and should be backed by more citations for credibility. 81.229.10.227 (talk) 11:40, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Removing "criticism"
The section on criticism says "critics" claim the fallacy is autological, and yet can only find one random think piece article that talks about common usage and fundamentally lacks an understanding of the fallacy itself (and fallacies in general). The fallacy never says who can or cannot use what tone, nor does it ever say that using a certain tone in unacceptable, as this is in direct opposition to the whole concept of the fallacy itself. Heavily misinformed opinions do not count as criticism. 89.172.31.115 (talk) 08:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)