Talk:Tony Curtis/Archive 1

Bastard Children
Greg and David Mandell (twins) are supposed to be children of this jerk. Are they? They say they are. These boys played "Adam" on Bewitched. --2600:6C65:773F:F680:209F:9C5C:2CD2:C795 (talk) 17:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Alcoholism, drug use
Why is there no mention of his chronic drug and alcohol use, and subsequent recovery? You would find this in Encyclopedia Britannica, why not here? I thought this was supposed to be neutral.


 * There's probably no mention because no-one's added it yet. Wikipedia is neutral, but it can only be so if the information has been added to it.  If you find information to be missing from this article, then the simple solution is to add it!  Just make sure to reference any facts.  22:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Spartacus
RE: Spartacus. I deleted the "Spartacus" entry in the trivia section. Douglas does not kill Curtis' character in this film (as stated in the entry). Rather, Curtis' is the first to step forward with the famous line "I'm Spartacus," offering to die in Douglas' character's place. The end result is that both Douglas' and Curtis' are crucified (along with 1,000's of Spartacus' other followers).
 * No, that's not true. After the scene you mention Crassus forces Spartacus and Antoninus to fight one-on-one to the death, and Crassus tries to kill Spartacus to prevent them from crucifying him, but Spartacus kills him instead and is crucified.  Did you watch the movie to the end?  Vincent Valentine 03:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace disputed
The article correctly cites reference 2 as claiming that Tony was born in the Bronx. However, the correctness of reference 2 (a review of "TONY CURTIS: The Autobiography") is in doubt. Tony Curtis himself claims in a video interview http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=DMYz-snQrWI that he was born in Manhattan:
 * Skip E. Lowe: "But you were born in Bronx weren't you?"
 * Tony Curtis: "No no Manhattan"
 * Lowe:  "They always say the Bronx"
 * Curtis: "I lived in the Bronx for about 6 months. I was back in Manhattan, lived in Queens for a little while."

Unless someone can cite a birth certificate or a page of the actual autobiography to assert the Bronx, his birthplace should be changed to Manhattan. Any objections? Of course I still need to find a way to permanently cite this video clip. Kapunda (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The year and date of birth don't add up!
"Between 1942 and 1945 Curtis served in the U.S. Navy aboard the submarine tender, the USS PROTEUS. He witnessed the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay in September 1945, from a vantage point of 300 yards away.[1] After his service in the Navy, the young Curtis studied acting alongside Elaine Stritch, Walter Matthau and Rod Steiger. To use his own words, he got into the movies because he was 'the handsomest of the boys.' Arriving in Hollywood in 1948 aged 23"

You earlier say he was born 1933 then have him serving in 1942 (age9) and in 1948 (age 15) you say he is aged 23? Something does not add up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.241 (talk) 13:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The story said he was born in 1925. Where did you get 1933? 208.97.15.223 (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Here is the 1930 Census, and it shows that he was born in 1925:

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You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1930 United States Federal Census about Bernard Schwartz Name: 	Bernard Schwartz [Tony Curtis] Home in 1930: 	Bronx, Bronx, New York View Map Age: 	4 Estimated Birth Year: 	abt 1926 Relation to Head of House: 	Son Father's Name: 	Manuel Mother's Name: 	Helen Race: 	White Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: 	View others on page Household Members: Name 	Age Manuel Schwartz 	29 Helen Schwartz 	26 Bernard Schwartz 	4 Julius Schwartz 	9/12 Bernard Seeger 	20 Stutzey (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Singing books
does any one know were he will be singing his books this weekend ,i know its london but not shure where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.117.43 (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

He is doing a book signing in Los Angeles next week at the Boarders.--Stuprus (talk) 13:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd rather hear him sing them, but I guess I can settle for an autograph. Rossrs (talk) 14:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Kurtz vs. Kertesz
... his last name from "Kurtz", a surname from his mother's family.


 * Are we sure about this? I'd always read that Curtis is an anglicisation of Kertesz, his mother's maiden name.  Kertesz is a common Hungarian surname, and Tony Curtis is known as Kertesz Antal in Hungary.  --   Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   01:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Images
Hie died today. In this entry more and better images of him are needed! --93.82.5.49 (talk) 10:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

300 yds - 300 m?
"He witnessed the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay September 14, 1945, from 300 yards (300 m) away." 300 yards is hardly 300 metres! Katie  (  Let's talk!!  ) 13:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you're confusing yards with feet? 300 metres and 300 yards are pretty similar. 80.5.188.126 (talk) 17:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Death ?
Why does it have under his image on the right hand side that he died today ? User:82.23.122.243 22:08, 20 April 2008

He died today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11445991 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.5.239.5 (talk) 20:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Place of death
Curtis' place of death has been changed from Las Vegas, Nevada to Henderson, Nevada without a reference to verify, by 2 different IP editors. (One geolocates to Henderson, Nevada BTW!, other to Iowa) None of the 'death' references I have checked mention Henderson in that context. I have reverted back to Las Vegas twice already. If it can't be verified with a reference then perhaps we should keep it as Las Vegas, Nevada. Any thoughts? - 220.101 talk\Contribs 04:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This has been resolved, his home is reported by several sources as being in Henderson, Nevada. - 220.101 talk\Contribs 07:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Lead images
Editor User:Dweeby123 gave as a rationale his insertion of a Curtis photo during his mostly post-career, retirement life, that it was the "most up to date." However, this is not an acceptable rationale for the use of a photo in Wikipedia, as we are not a news platform, but an encyclopedia. As such, the article spans his 60-year career, and an image should be reflective of his "prime" career years when available. This is especially true when an actor's physical appearance has been a factor to their career. These logical facts are also stated in WP Guidelines for the use of biography or historical images of famous people. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * True enough, I've never quite understood this obsession with having the latest images in infoboxes. Most representative / typical / recognizable is I think what an infobox should go for in terms of the photo. --Morn (talk) 19:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Why Henderson, Nevada?
I wonder if Mr. Curtis ever mentioned why he lived in Henderson in Nevada - instead of a place, like, Beverly Hills or Bel Air in Los Angeles? I also wonder why the street that he lived at wasn't the one that was re-named after him in Henderson - although the Tony Curtis Lane isn't that far from the road he apparently lived at, the Forest City Drive - perhaps he kinda wasn't all too happy about that, like Elvis Presley was kinda embarrased about the road that was renamed after him in the city he lived in, Memphis (which he had lived in since he was about 12 or 13 years old), but still that road was the road he lived at! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.154.82 (talk) 12:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Trimming questionable source
I'm trimming an off-topic quote by Curtis from an interview published in the Huffington Post. It doesn't seem to fit within the context of the article as he's merely giving his opinions of Rome while on a visit. On a more serious aspect, I think the citation itself may be improper, as it has videos within the cite which could conceivably be considered an "invasion of privacy" and "breach of trust" of Curtis's agreement with a TV producer.

The video is called "Tony Curtis Interview." Most of it was recorded with Curtis obviously unaware that the camera was on. This might be less of an issue with a private person, but obviously a major actor would not agree to be filmed without their prior OK. Hence, I don't think Wikipedia should use this citation for that reason alone. Any other thoughts or evidence to the contrary are welcome since this is not a typical issue. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 03:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

ELO
What's the connection between Tony Curtis and ELO? When I first read that he'd introduced them at Wembley Arena, my first reaction was - "So?" Without context, it's a factoid, and given that Curtis lived for more than 80 years, and was a celebrity for considerably more than half of that time, his biography could be crammed full of factoids. As editors, we have to choose between the relevant and the irrelevant, support the former and avoid the latter. Relevance has not been established. Of all the people who could have introduced ELO, why Tony Curtis? Of all the bands Tony Curtis could have introduced, why ELO? Establish context and relevance in the text, and it may be a suitable addition, but without context or relevance demonstrated, it definitely should be removed. Rossrs (talk) 08:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Images to commons
Hi, I have seen that you are planning to copy the images of Tony Curtis used in this article to the Commons. As a user of other wikis I would like to ask whether I can count on this happening soon. It would be much easier for us to use these pics that way. Pumukli (talk) 15:39, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

+ - ✅ - Off2riorob (talk) 15:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Five marriages
Why does this article claim that Tony Curtis was married six times? In his second autobiography he clearly states that he married "for the fourth time" in February 1993 and that Lisa Deutsch was his fourth wife after Janet Leigh, Christine Kaufmann and Leslie Allen (Tony Curtis: American Prince: My Autobiography. New York 2008. P. 319). Andria Savio is mentioned nowhere throughout the whole book. Is there any evidence that Curtis was not telling the truth? --Diggindeeper (talk) 11:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Tony Curtis has just been married five times, not six times. In both his autobiographies (1993 and 2008) Tony Curtis claims that Lisa Deutsch was his fourth wife, not Andria Savio. When the press stated that he had married Andria Savio in 1982, he clearly contradicted those reports the same year. Nobody objected, therefore I am deleting that erroneous paragraph in the article. --Diggindeeper (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Janet Leigh's studio
Janet Leigh and Tony Curtis were actually signed to DIFFERENT studios. Tony Curtis was signed to Universal, and Janet Leigh to MGM. This was actually an issue in their engagement and marriage, as MGM was considered to be the "artsier" studio, and Universal the home of B movies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.226.134.141 (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Jamie Lee Curtis
Hi folks, if Curtis was born as Bernard Schwartz and never changed his surname why his daughter is born Jamie Lee Curtis instead of Jamie Lee Schwarts? Has Wikipedia missed / forgot the Tony's change of surname sometime during his personal life? Sorry for bothering you, just in case. Regards.

John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.138.118.83 (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The California Birth Index 1905-1995 shows that she was born as Jamie Lee Curtis, not Schwartz. Sometimes a celebrity registers their child under their real name, sometimes under their stage name. Jim Michael (talk) 01:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

He did change his surname into Curtis in the early 50s already. He once showed me his passport, his name WAS Tony (not Anthony) Curtis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.229.8.167 (talk) 20:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Jack Lemmon is not interred in Nevada
From the section on "Laters years and Death": "He was interred at Palm Memorial Park Cemetery near close friend and co star Jack Lemmon in Green Valley, Nevada on October 4, 2010."

Jack Lemmon is interred in the Westwood Village Memorial Park cemetery, and not in Green Valley, Nevada.

From Jack Lemmon's article in Wikipedia: "He was interred at Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery in Westwood, California where he is buried near his friend and co-star, Walter Matthau" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.248.181 (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

You Bet Your Life
I deleted the line "(Curtis was already a star at the time of her appearance in 1956 although no reference was made to him on the show.)" as it is incorrect. Multiple references were made to Tony Curtis during this YBYL Episode from 6:59 to 8:15. I don't understand this error or the incorrect comment on the youtube page "Surprising that Groucho made no reference to the fact that Mrs Schwartz had a movie star for a son (Curtis was already a star by 1956). Or was he keeping his roots quiet﻿ at that time?"

Are we watching the same episode??

07:40 Groucho: Why Tony Curtis? 07:42 Mrs Schwartz: Because I'm his mother ... 08:00 Groucho: Does Tony come from a theatrical family?
 * Audience Applauds **

etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkeator (talk • contribs) 04:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

His brothers.
In his autobiography he says his brother Julius died before his other brother Robert was born. So he couldn't have shared the same room with them both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiversneal (talk • contribs) 12:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Marriages listed as concurrent
How did he marry Andrea Savio in 1978 if he didn't divorce Leslie Allen till 1982?Wolfita (talk) 03:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC) --Light show (talk) 04:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

enough with this "bronx" stuff
all references to "the bronx" should be removed from the tony curtis article. i just finished listening to an interview of tony curtis and the man said that he was born and raised in MANHATTAN. i see no reason to doubt this. curtis said that he lived in the bronx once, apparently for a relatively short time. i think people are confusing the bronx with brooklyn. curtis probably spent more time in brooklyn than he did in the bronx and may have spent enough time in brooklyn to acquire a brooklyn accent. but people listen to his voice and think he was from the bronx. the "bronx" accent is relatively close to a brooklyn accent, and this appears to have been especially true in the first half of the twentieth century. but there is a difference. my mother was born in the bronx three years after tony curtis, and she had a bronx accent. but she didn't sound like tony curtis, nor did the relatives on my mother's side of the family who continued to live in the bronx. (a bronx accent would be close to the accent jean stapleton used as edith bunker. and edith bunker didn't sound all that much like tony curtis.)````  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.228.117 (talk) 17:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Should we put his name in Yiddish?
He didn’t speak English until he was about 7 and was Ashkenazi Jewish. Should we put his name in Yiddish?
 * His parents were Hungarian Jews and he spoke Hungarian as well before 7. So the real question would be, should we add Hungarian and Yiddish...(KIENGIR (talk) 21:53, 31 July 2019 (UTC))

Why not add his birthname in both languages?2605:6001:E7C4:1E00:5CC8:1F12:C915:CEDD (talk) 20:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I said the same, this the real question in fact.(KIENGIR (talk) 20:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC))

Bronx stuff, revisited
I just made two edits re Curtis in the articles, The Black Shield of Falworth and The Prince Who Was a Thief re Curtis' Bronx accent, citing It seems to me as if there is material which ought to be in here too. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:16, 11 January 2020 (UTC)