Talk:Tooting Bec

links to Abbey of Bec
Anonymous contributor at 216.220.44.141 wrote in the main article: [edit]The word 'Bec' is Danish for 'Brook'. Several English towns have the word Bec appended to them. The Abbey itself is called Bec only because it is on a brook, it was originally named after its founder. Since the Abbey was founded after 1066, it seems unlikely that it was given land in England by the Normans. Is there a source document for this claim?[end of edit]


 * Yes there are several and they available from very obvious sources:   For example:


 * The name of Tooting Beck or Tooting Bec still preserves the former association of a part of this town with the great Benedictine abbey of Bec in Normandy. A certain part of Upper Tooting, in the parish of Streatham, was given to the abbey of Bec in the life of the Conqueror by Richard de Tonebridge, and the abbey placed some monks there in charge of their property establishing a grange or small priory. The chapel at Streatham mentioned in the Domesday Survey (fn. 2) as paying 8s. may have been the church or chapel of this priory. The estate was sometimes accounted as a distinct alien priory and sometimes as a member of Okeburn, Wilts, which was the chief English cell of Bec.
 * The prior of Tooting (Theuteng) was appointed by Pope Innocent IV., in 1251, conservator of certain pensions from certain churches granted to the abbot and convent of Westminster. The taxation roll of 1291 returns the abbot of Bec as holding an income of £4 out of the church of Streatham as part of the alien priory of Streatham.


 * Source:'Alien house: Priory of Tooting', A History of the County of Surrey: Volume 2 (1967), pp. 129-30 Date accessed: 08 October 2006.


 * Can I suggest you do a bit of basic research before making edits of this sort.--Lang rabbie 13:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The name Tooting
In view of the above, I shall be very cautious :). However, I see no reason to suspect that Tooting, in its original form, did not mean 'the people of the lookout'. There are plenty of examples of Toot Hill and the like around the country and those are generally accepted as meaning 'lookout hill' etc. Tooting lies astride the Roman road from Chichester to London and near the top of the slope up from the Wandle valley, where the road could be observed and from which point messages could be dispatched to the city, without a change of horse. It seems reasonable to suspect that the people given responsibility for performing this service were given the name, Tootingas, the people of the lookout, in the same pattern as all the other ingas names. (RJPe (talk) 12:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC))

British Isles Terminology task force
BTW a change was made to this article (relating to the lido) after a long discussion here Wikipedia_talk:British Isles Terminology task force/Specific Examples.--Lidos (talk) 09:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Contradictory etymologies
There are two contradictory etymologies on this page for "Bec". Jogloran (talk) 04:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have undone the unsourced change made in June, which is contrary to all published histories. --Lang rabbie 18:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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