Talk:Tori shogi

Early talk

 * Sorry about the table, I know what the kanji for the pheasant and quail are but I have no way of entering them in with my computer without knowing the Unicode or cutting and pasting from somewhere else. JTTyler 05:00, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


 * In the past I've used WWWJDIC for finding kanji. You can copy and paste once you've found the one you want. --Zundark

The moves for the goose seem to be incorrect. Doesn't the goose jump two steps DIRECTLY BACKWARD or DIAGONALLY FORWARD? Error corrected --218.208.199.90

I like the idea of having the japanese setup shown graphicly but the last picture was removed for coppyright violation or something. I can create my own imiges well enough but have trouble getting them to upload or work right in wiki. (I think the problem is me.) I like to use the XHTML/wiki markup table because it does not violate the GDFL on this site. It is times like this, however, that I wish text characters can be rotated in HTML. It would show the relatinship between the sides a litle better. I like SAMBOY's idea of bold names for black in the english table and so I have no reason to change this now. JTTyler 05:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Tori Shogi sets?
Anyone know a place where one might find (hopefully not expensive) sets for Tori Shogi? Heck any Shogi variant for that matter? --Sivak 07:15, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Good luck, your best bet is to shop around in Japan. I found a decent and inexpencive tori shogi set at Japan’s Amazon.com (¥1365 not including shipping). Or a higher quality one here (¥15,540). JTTyler 01:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Try Phil Holland's Do-it-Yourself Tori Shogi Set. It's so inexpensive it just might be worth it, barely!  What I mean is, don't go playing in places where there are breezes or mischievous kids around.
 * And for shogi itself, you might try Gene Davis Software. (As for others, you might just try making those yourself, once you come up with the know-how and means.  Maybe.  OneWeirdDude (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * George Hodges' widow still sells sets for all Shogi variants. E-mail her at for a price list. H.G.Muller (talk) 10:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if by all you mean "all the historical ones except taikyoku", IIRC. Double sharp (talk) 15:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Speaking of which, I saw a kit once for a homemade set (you might have seen it, too) in which the quail are identical on the obverse side; is this normal? Shogivar distinguishes the left from the right on the obverse face. OneWeirdDude (talk) 22:01, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Impasse?
Hi, I could find no documentation for impasse in tori, so I am removing that paragraph. OneWeirdDude (talk) 21:50, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite right. Impasse should not pose any problem in Tori Shogi, as the pieces are not as asymmetrically forward directed as in regular Shogi, and the Goose is a quite weak piece, a pair of which cannot mutually protect each other as Tokins can, so that it is not possible to build a fortress out of dropped and instantly promoted Pawns. H.G.Muller (talk) 10:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Perpetual Check?
Forbidding repeats in the way described implies that in a perpetual check either the checker must change its move (breaking off the checking), or the side being checked must stop evading (i.e. allow his Phoenix to be captured), depending on who would repeat first. I seriously doubt that the rules would ever have been such to cause the latter. I remember having seen a Japanese website that mentioned evading check was always allowed, whether it would cause a repeat or not. (But I had the impression he had made up this rule himself.) H.G.Muller (talk) 10:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)