Talk:Tornjak

Grammar
The text could do with some work on its Grammar. I do understand that the author might not have English as a primary language but perhaps someone could clean it up a little bit. A lot of the text refers to the dogs in a singular form rather than in a plural form (Ie "The dog has" rather than "The dogs have") and a few errors like that. The text is readable, however. 121.45.225.252 (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Quantitative descriptive information
Can someone add some quantitative descriptive information, e.g., height, weight, life span. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

- The height is about 70cm for dogs, 60-65cm for bitches. Weight of adult male between 45 and 55 kilos, females around 35 kilos.

- Have added heights from the FCI standard but it doesn't contain weights. PutTheKettleOn (talk) 15:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

TORNJAK HISTORY
Bosnian Tornjak

Tornjak belongs to a family Canis familiaris matris optimale which dates back from 2000 years before the new age. The center of origin of this breed is the Caucasus region as well as eastern Caucasus. Today, sheepdog "tornjak" and all breed related to him exist in south-eastern Europe.

Tornjak is a dog from Bosnia and Herzegovina, with dominant region of breeding located in large mountainous areas of Vlašić in central part of the country. The first written record of this dog and its body measures and characteristics at this region date from the year 1067. The name "tornjak" comes from the word "tor" which is an expression used to describe enclosure space, intended for sheep-holding under a clear sky, during the mountain pasture season.

This breed has existed in Bosnia and Herzegovina for the past thousand years, and it can be proven with written documents. At this time the tornjak was registered under the name Kanis montanus. Which translates to mountain dog. But the local people gave it the name tornjak (tor: enclosure for sheep, and cattle). Tornjak was registered as autochthonous breed on May 9, 1981 with the name "Bosnian-Herzegovinian sheepdog - tornjak."At that time Yugoslavian pedigree was opened for the tornjak. A judge commission was formed with the goal to do everything needed for the standard of the breed and it's recognition with the FCI as an autochthonous breed with the above mentioned name. The standard was done on 10.05.1990 in Travnik (a town in central Bosnia).

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--92.231.251.175 (talk) 12:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Tornjak
I think it was a good idea to revise the page. Good work!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.69.33 (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

why is the text that it is a Croatian mountain dog? as such he is referred to only by the Croats, and is nowhere recognized--85.179.72.70 (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The name Croation mountain dog is on the FCI factsheet "Tornjak (Bosnian and Herzegovinian - Croatian Shepherd dog) PutTheKettleOn (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Tornjak
http://www.ljutibosanci.com/bosna/autohtone-pasmine.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.226.58.76 (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

History of the dog
The history of Torniac or Tornjak dog

The Torniac dog belongs to the rare endangered breeds. The name comes from the fact that he returned the lost sheep, turned them over. These Torniac dogs are thought to have existed in the area around the Dinaric Alps, especially in the densely populated region of bilingual Vlachs (near the town of Travnik, Bosnia and Herzegovina). The dogs were used in Vlachs' transhumance in Western Balkans. The name may be from the most well-known Proto-Romanian word: torna. From the famous expression: Torna, torna, fratre. The story of the expression is told by the monk and chronicler Theophanes the Confessor (752-817) in his work entitled "Chronography" Today, the Vlachs of Bosnia or Croatia have forgotten their mother tongue and have no organization to protect their heritage, so the race was registered by the Slavs in Croatia. 109.166.139.130 (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Banned in Denmark?
It looks like the link for them being banned in Denmark is no longer active

I'm mostly just curious why they're banned but don't particularly have the bandwidth to go looking for a source RC3141 (talk) 21:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)