Talk:Toronto Eaton Centre

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Earlier discussions

 * Can someone mention something about that fountain? I always thought it was special    --Madchester 05:25, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
 * The Terauley Street (an east-west street, parallel and south to Dundas) that was closed in the 1970s to make way for the Eaton Centre is NOT the same Terauley Street that extended north-south from Queen to Grenville and was renamed Bay Street (I believe in the 1930s). The east-west Terauley connected Bay to Yonge and exited onto the west side of Yonge to the south of where Dundas Square (the street) is today on the other side of Yonge (in fact, Terauley cut through what is now the Sears store).  It is possible that the east-west Terauley was renamed Terauley when the much longer north-south Terauley became part of Bay Street.  Skeezix1000 11:49, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Any thoughts on whether the Eaton Centre Marriott is officially part of the complex? In other words, does Cadillac Fairview have an ownership stake in the hotel?  The name of the hotel itself is, arguably, not enough to deem it part of the centre.  There certainly is no public connection between the two buildings (although they are physically attached, but as are many unrelated downtown buildings) -- you have to walk outside to go from the Eaton Centre to the Marriott.  The Eaton Centre website does not show the hotel as part of the centre.  Right now, I've left a reference in the article to the two being "attached", unless someone has better information.  Skeezix1000 12:03, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

- There is a indoor connection to the Marriott on level 2 of Sears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.13.114.198 (talk) 18:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm really getting a kick out of the improvements in the article. Keep the good work up. --Madchester 15:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Top tourist attraction

 * Despite the suggestion that it doesn't rate above the CN Tower, the Eaton Centre is the city's top tourist attraction in terms of the number of visitors. From a qualitative perspective, I guess every single tourist has their own view of what constitutes the "top" attraction in their mind.  I've clarified the reference.  Skeezix1000 14:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Anchors

 * Not sure where the number of 3 anchors (in the infobox) came from. Sears is one, and what else?  The Bay is not part of the Eaton Centre.  The notion of the shopping mall "anchor" is a bit of outmoded concept in any event, in the age of the category-killer stores.  Skeezix1000 00:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Why is there a Toronto Eaton Centre and a Eaton Centre (Toronto) entry. They're almost identical, except the Eaton Centre (Toronto) has the square footages of the major stores and anchors. They should really be merged.


 * When malls are first built, the developer looks for the firts big tenants and grant them huge discounts and rights to exclude competitors. These are anchor tenants.

Quality assessment
I have given this article an initial quality assessment of "Start". Its content is reasonably good, but the formats of its inline citations should be changed (use the ref tags) and increased. PKT (talk) 13:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The only mall GAs which I can find are 108 North State Street, Merle Hay Mall, Post Oak Mall, University Mall (Little Rock, Arkansas), and Willow Grove Park Mall. Just posting this as a list of possible inspirations in a cleanup. --  Zanimum (talk) 17:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Largest downtown mall in North America claim
I've removed the claim that it's the largest downtown mall in North America. But I can see where it's coming from. I consider the Ala Moana Center in Honolulu to be the largest downtown mall in the USA, and bigger at 2.1 million square feet, but it's not part of "downtown Honolulu". However its location is central, between downtown Honolulu and Waikiki which could be considered more of a downtown than Downtown itself. I think Toronto has a lenient definition of Downtown and some cities are stricter.

The next largest mall in a traditional American downtown that I know of is Westfield San Francisco Center which is smaller than Eaton Centre. Fashion Show Mall on the Las Vegas Strip is larger, which isn't in Downtown Las Vegas, but you could argue is in its "real" downtown. Malls like Houston Galleria and Lenox Square/Phipps Plaza are in major central districts but not really downtown. So Eaton Centre could be the largest downtown mall in continental North America, but I don't know enough about Mexican/Central American/Caribbean malls. So unless if someone does, the claim shouldn't be made. Hypertall (talk) 02:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * A "lenient" definition of downtown?
 * Toronto's downtown is the area downtown. It's not complicated.
 * If you don't know what a downtown is, and you can't even spell Centre, then why are you deleting text?
 * Your arguments in favour of deletion sound a lot like justifications for restoring the aforementioned text.
 * Varlaam (talk) 02:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ I have restored that since you have made such a good case for its being true. Varlaam (talk) 02:39, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The noun "Centre" is spelled "Center" in the United States. That's not a fair criticism of their argument. --  Zanimum (talk) 17:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

2012 shooting Section
it is quoted in that Section "A woman who was near the Eaton Centre shooting, Jessica Ghawi, was killed a month later in the 2012 Aurora shooting" Ghawi was not near the Eaton center she was inside the center she showed later her Receipt on twitter she was in the same spot 3 minutes before the shooting where one of the Victims died! she also noted it in her blog! http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com Fox2k11 (talk) 16:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Update for shooting section
There is a hidden editorial note from 2012 saying there was a publication ban on the names of the victims. This needs to be part of the main discussion, as it was noted as an "extraordinary" move by the media, especially as most if not all the names had been widely reported prior to the ban being put in place. Also, the ban was officially lifted in September 2012 for one of the names after he died. I did a Google News search and the most recent reference I can find is from January 2013 in which a judge reiterated the ban with regards to surviving victims, so I don't know if the ban still exists 9 months later or not. 68.146.70.124 (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

2015 Renovation/Expansion
A section should be added concerning the current expansion of the Toronto Eaton Center.

Eaton Centre to expand for Saks Fifth Avenue flagship and include the Bay In a retail deal worth $650-million, the Eaton Centre will expand across Queen Street. “This is the biggest expansion of the Eaton Centre since it was built,” http://www.thestar.com/business/2014/01/27/hudsons_bay_co_to_sell_lease_back_downtown_toronto_properties.html

Nordstrom to replace Sears at Eaton Centre Giant U.S. retailer to open in downtown Toronto in fall 2016 http://www.thestar.com/business/2014/01/15/nordstrom_to_replace_sears_at_eaton_centre.html

Level 2 Expansion - New Store Openings https://www.cfshops.com/toronto-eaton-centre/news-events/news/level-2-expansion-openings.html 70.53.60.158 (talk) 02:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead and add it! Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 16:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Proposed move to CF Toronto Eaton Centre
Cadillac Fairview recently started branding its malls CF (as in CF Eaton Centre, etc.). As a result, the articles on these malls are moving back and forth. I am going to initiate a discussion at WP:CANTALK so we can develop a comprehensive consensus for this issue, rather than having multiple move discussions. Please do not move the article until there is consensus either way. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:43, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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New pedestrian bridge
It would be great to expand the statement about the new pedestrian bridge built in 2017 that is rounded at one end but square on the other end. Thank you. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:29, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What are your thoughts? Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 01:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)