Talk:Toronto Rocket

Another example of wordiness

 * My version: "Full-width operator cabs at the ends of the train"
 * AlexRampaul's version: "Two full-width operator cab car units (one at each end of the train)"

Does the longer version add any information at all? Or does it just take more words to say the same thing? I think it is just longer. Ground Zero | t 16:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Also to note - "Cab car units" is incorrect/does not make any sense. The older trains are in 2 car married pairs: Three 2 car "units" to a 6 car train. These trains as we know are one 6 car train ... no "units" so to speak. eja2k 01:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

✅ Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Not articulated train
I think we have an essential misunderstanding of what makes a train "articulated." Articulated trains have non-independent attached sections in which no section can stand alone, the attachment between the section resting on a common truck or bogie. The Rocket is a semi-permanently coupled six car train with a full-width passage between the cars. Each car is fully supported on two trucks. Compare with the actually articulated ALRV that actually has a common truck beneath the articulation joint.

I cannot find any reference, including at the manufacturer's site, that refers to the Rockets or their generic class as articulated. -- Cecropia (talk) 22:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Order for 10 more trains
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/news/n-america/single-view/view/toronto-orders-10-more-rockets.html Fan Railer (talk) 04:15, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Johnny Au  (talk/contributions) 00:02, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

How many sets in total?
I have just subtracted the general numbers 6196 from 5381 (the Toronto Rocket fleet numbers in reverse), and ended up with 815. Seeing these trains form as either 4 or 6 car sets, I divided it by 5 (the average) and I got 163. Is that the right answer or do I need more help? Edgar Searle (talk) 05:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Five would in this case be the mean, not the average. For it to be the average that would mean there is an equal number of four-car and six-car train sets, and as the four-car sets are only used on Sheppard, presumably there are far fewer of them. The only correct answer would be to find in some sourced material exactly how many of each the TTC has in its fleet, rather than guesswork. Echoedmyron (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I've got it; there are actually 76 6-car sets for the Line 1, and 6 4-car sets for the Line 4. The last digits actually vary depending on the car position, that is, there is no carriage where the 4th digit is a 7, 8, 9 or 0. And on the 4-car sets, no carriage has their last digit numbered 3 or 4. If the last digit is a variable one (in this case, to denote individual cars), I just simplify the set numbers by eliminating that digit. For instance, cars 5381, 5382, 5383, 5384, 5385 and 5386 would make up set 538, and cars 6141, 6142, 6145 and 6146 would make up set 614. This accords to this page I found on CPTDB Wiki - but I think we'll have to look for another source because in order to verify it, we also need to rely on another source other than this. Edgar Searle (talk) 00:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)