Talk:Torture stake

I just cant understand why "Torture stake" redirects to "Instrument of Jesus' crucifixion". Can anyone explain me? --Jacques de Selliers (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Because there are certain branches of Christianity -- in particular, I think the Jehovah's Witnesses -- who have very specific beliefs about the way in which Jesus was crucified; specifically, they refer to the wooden framework as a "torture stake" rather than a "cross". There's been serious and impassioned debate on this topic, as a matter of fact. DS (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Still, a torture stake is much more than the Jehovah's Witnesses specific belief about the way in which Jesus was crucified. It is just as redirecting "Automobile" to, for instance, "Chevrolet Corvette (C2)" because some people believe that it is the ultimate automobile! This should be changed. --Jacques de Selliers (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * As I understand it, this is currently the only real use of the term. If you wish to conver Torture stake into a stand-alone article, feel free, but include a hatnote pointing to the debate about Jesus. DS (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2012 (UTC)