Talk:Total Drama Island/Archive 2

Should the article's title changed?
Should the article's title moved to "List of Total Drama series episodes" or else? "...Total Drama Island episodes" sounds quite single-minded, as "Total Drama Island" isn't the only name in the series. tablo (talk) 22:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. They should change the name of the page to List of Total Drama series episodes. --Hadger (talk) 05:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Or they could just make a Total Drama Action episode page by itself and a Total Drama Island page by itself. -- Ha dg  er  14:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I moved the episode lists for Total Drama Action to List of Total Drama Action episodes. tablo (talk) 21:37, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

new episode on TV Guide
This link http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/total-drama-action/tv-listings/297621 says that in October 1st there would be a episode called "Super Hero-id". tablo (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

why do I get redirected to TDI episodes when looking for TDA episodes article?
Could someone remove the redirect from searching TDA episodes? I don't know how. This redirect is annoying!

Tman7776 (talk) 19:56, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know, if you type in "List of Total Drama Action episodes" you should go to that article. And I don't see any redirections. tablo (talk) 21:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Teletoon Original Serie box
Can someone add to the page ?

Merge
I think the elimination reasons and elimination table should be merged into List of characters from Total Drama Island, after all, the reasons why the contestants were eliminated are already in their sections on the character page, which makes it all seem redudant. And the elimination table should go along too. Elbutler (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I dont know. I suggested earlier to make one article for the basic info/production, then one on TDI and TDA with elimination table, bios, etc. I think that the elimination table would be OK for the character article, but I suggest changing the colors back to the blue, and orange, and red. I actually had tried to put a table up earlier last year, but some person just kept on taking it down.-TDI19 (talk) 00:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Since the profiles of the characters and the elimination table are closely related, I would say that it would be better to merge them, instead of taking up space on the Main Page, which should only REALLY be about the show itself, and not what or who is on it, I guess. Bbhinton15 (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I think we should do that, but I suggest changing the colors back to the way they were, as this kind of table on Wikipedia uses those colors.- TDI19 (talk) 00:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that he's right why are all the wins green, but it should stay because a person who may not watch it and check it out might not know what really happens. So i say stick with the elimanation table.- aynomos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.150.166 (talk) 01:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's fine just the way it is. No change neccesary, please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.114.240 (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that it should in fact be merged on to the other article because like it has been said the List of Characters already has their reason for elimination so that makes the information here repetitive. As for the table, it's a bit confusing and yes since it does talk about the characters so it could be merged on to the other page but at the same time, the other article doesnt only talk about season one, so the table would kind of throw the whole thing of. But I do believe that the table would be a better of if it were based on the call out of each order episode instead. UniquexAngel (talk) 07:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be merged for the convinience of viewers. A l e x 0 01 User talk:Alex001 08:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I say we keep it because the eliminations are already shown on list of characters and not on the main page Wifishark (talk) 12:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Norwegian Teen
Cody could be a Norwegian teen who participated.



--GreyMatterEchoUKfan (talk) 5:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Original Channel?
Broadcast Original channel 	Teletoon (Canada) (Original/Canada) Cartoon Network (America) '''MTV (Mexico) Jetix (Netherlands) Jetix (UK)''' Original airing 	July 8, 2007 (Original Airdate/Canadian)[1][2] June 5, 2008 (American Airdate)[3]

Should MTV Mexico and Jetix Netherlands, UK included on Original Channel? Because as Template:Infobox_Television says, original channel doesn't include foreign channel. Maybe I'll make a new section.

Hidden Stuff,Or Typos
People have seen many typos, I want to know some of them, please! Cody was missing a shoe, Beth was missing one of her pins!

Elimination Table Colors
Look, I think that the current table (too much green) needs to have a color change, so that it would be easy to navigate. Sort of like mine (MIGHT CHANGE):

Eliminated. ("OUT")

Immune from being voted off. ("IN")

Removed from the game. ("RM")

Won a challenge after the merge. ("WIN")

Won a challenge for the winning team. ("WIN")

Was on the winning team, yet didn't win the challenge. ("WIN")

Had their name called first in the ceremony. ("HIGH") -- Currently off the table.

Had their name called in the ceremony. ("IN")

Won the final challenge. ("WIN")

Had their name called last in the ceremony. ("LOW")

Same as before. Quit TD. ("QUIT")

Voted off. ("OUT")

Eliminated by other means/irregurally (Izzy left although it's extremely obvious that she did get enough votes; they just wanted to have her leave in-character as someone else said. Leshawna was "voted off" by the eliminated contestants, Duncan was eliminated by Chef). ("OUT")

Wrongfully voted off. I mean, voted off illigally; I.E. rigged votes. ("OUT")

Didn't advance to the next season. ("FAIL")

Advanced to the next season. ("PASS")

Didn't advance to the next season at first, but then returned. ("FAIL")

Third place. Should only be put on the "3" on the place section, because it is more important to show how the camper was eliminated than what place they where in. (see below)

Runner-up. Should only be put in the "2" in the place section, "Runner-up" takes up too much space.

First place. Like before, should only be put on the "1".

Camper was in the Killer Bass or any team with a red logo. (Name of the camper)

Camper was in the Screaming Gophers or any team with a green logo. (Name of the camper)

Hasn't happened yet, but this color should be used in case we need one: Camper was in a team with a blue logo. (name of the camper)

Camper was inactive. (nothing)

Camper lost the final challenge and became the runner-up ("OUT")

-- This is an idea I've though up of. Camper placed highest in the challenge, or won a "sub chalange" (what ever you call it), yet was on the losing team. (sorta like the teal "WIN" and the green "WIN" -- if we have something like that for the winning team, why not for the losing team?). ("IN")

Great pikmin fan (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with your colors. An elimination table should be easy to navigate with, so your colors would be good to use. -- Ha dg  er  02:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree with your statement on the current colors, however the colors you proposed are WAY too many. As I have said before, elimination tables are supposed to be easy and fairly fast to read. Adding those colors will just make it more complicated and harder to read. Quite a few of your colors and the current colors seem unnessecary. --DragonofFire99 (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Every one of those nearly corresponds to a color on the table in the actuall aritcle. That's why there are too many. Great pikmin fan (talk) 00:46, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, i believe LOW and HIGH are not necessary, the whole point of the elimination table is to show who is still IN and who is still OUT. LOW and HIGH are there for no apparent reason.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I was originally going to disagree with you, but after looking at the reasons, I agree that they shouldn't be there. Also, why do we have to list who got called first during the campfire ceremony? What's so important about that? Like this:


 * This camper has met the qualifications of a certain episode's challenge(s) to win the challenge and its prize (mostly solo invincibility) for themselves (Episodes 15-27 - After the Teams dissolved) and had their name called first at the campfire ceremony. Mokoniki | talk 18:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

So we agree that it is trivial and holds no importance to the trailer? maybe one more contributor would like to say something else to finalize the suggestion?Bread Ninja (talk) 19:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Bread Ninja. -- Dragonof Fire (Talk) 19:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, "LOW" makes sence, as it is about who nearly got voted off (Harold in the third episode because he was the first to lose, Courtney during Tyler's elimination because neither of them faced thier chalange...). "HIGH", most of the time, isn't about who did the best on the chalanges out of the losing team most of the time. Great pikmin fan (talk) 00:46, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

LOW is just as trivial as HIGH. either way the person hasn't been eliminated. Whether the person was close to being eliminated or not is very trivial in the elimination table. Actually I'm starting to think "WIN" is also as trivial as LOW and HIGH. It's called an elimination table, that means we just list who were eliminated and who stay whether they won a prize or invincibility (reason for still being IN) is not necessary.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Here's a comparason between the regular table and my suggestion:

Current:

It's a lot easier to navigate, seeing as instead of using three different but similar shades of green (win for team, win in team, win after merge), we use blue, green, and teal, for example. Great Pikmin Fan ( TD ) ( Talk ) 23:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good idea. It makes it much easier to navigate, rather than there being a ton of green colors and having to keep looking at what each green means and/or getting confused about which green is which. I think using completely different colors is better than using different shades of the same color. -- Ha  dg  er  17:50, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I think this elimination table is too dark in some places and too light in others. I suggest taking a look a Elimination Table Color II. It's the best elimination table ever. Oh and F.Y.I. LeShawna was unfairly voted off. I think the current table looks the best. Poseidon Aphrodite TONE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.107.206 (talk • contribs)


 * Not to be offensive or anything, but maybe it's not best to say that your elimination table is the best. In fact, you may not realize this, but Great Pikmin Fan may take this offensively (about saying yours is the best). Don't worry, I'm sure you didn't mean any harm. In fact, I think both elimination tables are the best! Both have problems and both bring benefits that would make the elimination table better. Also, LeShawna wasn't unfairly voted off, and even if she is, I think the "unfairly voted off" thing is mostly an opinion and wouldn't be good. I'll just edit it on the article and put that this camper was voted off by someone tampering with the votes. Also, please stop editing the comments.-- Ha  dg  er  00:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Technically, Hadger, someone did tamper with the votes which cause Leshawna to get voted off (Chris). -- Dragonof Fire (龙火) 04:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess it's somewhat true, then, but I think the tampering with the vote color thing is too trivial in all. -- Ha  dg  er  00:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well not that but, why not put this comment on User:72.95.107.206's talk page. Besides I'm just saying that I think that in some places it was too dark and in some it was too light. Anyway I 'm from a different counrty, Bulgaria, and I don't know what's offensive, even though I have lived here 7 and 1/2 years. Poseidon Aphrodite TONE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.107.206 (talk • contribs)


 * O.K., well in your elimination table, there's a factual error: In Episode 16, "Search and do Not Destroy", Izzy did win the challenge, but didn't receive invincibility, and because I'm saying this it's because the only reason Lindsay got a WIN is because Izzy did the challenge for her, and so if she made Lindsay win, then Izzy should have a WIN, and in the key to the colors, you keep on misspelling challenge, and I keep on fixing it but you keep on erasing it. Poseidon Aphrodite TONE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.107.206 (talk) 01:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I never changed it back, and I even said in my page that I will allow people to fix any spelling errors. And the error was because I copy-pasted this from the main article and, at the time, that's what it was like. Great Pikmin Fan  ( TD ) ( Talk ) 04:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah. But the table should have all the correct data, there's no use to put it on the disscusion page. When the real elimination table changes, you should change yours. Poseidon Aphrodite TONE
 * Well, if by "When it changes", you mean when yours is on the page, I don't really know.... Not many people agree with it, and like I said, note number four (on the IP's, not yours, Great pikmin) is too trivial. If people don't agree with yours (the IP's), it can't be put on the article. Also, I guess if it says you can fix spelling errors on Great pikmin's user page, it's allowed, because you are allowed to edit other people's comments with their permission, and I'll count that as permission, so I guess you can fix Great pikmin's spelling error. Also, if Great pikmin made an error, someone would probably fix that error, so I don't think you have to criticize his elimination table that much because of an error. -- Ha  dg  er  01:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * GPF, while your effort is commendable, this is very unreadable by those with colorblindness and questionably readable to those without. Too many similar dark colors are being used in conjunction with black text.  In addition, color should not be used as the sole method of communicating any information.  See also WP:COLOR.  We've already come to a consensus on what the tables should look like and have implemented it on both the Total Drama World Tour and Total Drama Action pages.  It is currently also being adapted for this article.  If you want to discuss changes to this design, please read the discussion leading up to the design change and comment there or on one or both of the template pages (TDA, TDWT).  Twentydragon  01:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

LOWs?
I agree that the HIGHs and LOWs do not belong in the table, however there are some users who still like the LOWs being in the table. Some user put just the LOWs back into the table after Bread Ninja took them away. I want to know if users still would like to keep them or just get rid of them again. -- Dragonof Fire (Talk) 16:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think they belong. I don't think it is of any importantance, to know who got called last in the campfire ceremony. Mokoniki | talk 00:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * That's what I was thinking, too. The only thing that seems like they still belong is because when the teams were still together, the last one called at the campfire ceremony was someone who usually did poorly in the elimination challenge. Other than that, I don't believe that they should stay. -- Dragonof Fire (Talk) 03:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, LOW shouldnt be in aswell but i also believe WIN isnt important in the elimination table. the whole point is to show who is IN and who is OUT.Bread Ninja (talk) 15:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I still think LOW has a place in the table. It indicates who was almost eliminated. WIN generally indicates those who were safe from elimination. I'd be in favor of keeping them. Twentydragon 08:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Total Drama Wikipage
I think there should be a page to the entire Total Drama series. Does anybody agree?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 20:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. Rohedin (talk) 14:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. I think the issue is what to call the page for the series. Total Drama Island refers pretty clearly to season 1 of the show. The two best titles I see for the overall series page are Total Drama or Total Drama Island (series). What do the producers of the show use (in reliable sources, of course) to refer to the overall series? Once the article is split off, anything that pertains to multiple seasons (e.g., character overviews, lists of the seasons, etc.) can go in the series article, and things related just to the season (or season-ending special) can go in the season's article. —C.Fred (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Eva-Izzy Elimination
Eva - 23th (The Big Sleep - Episode 3) and 12th (No Pain no Game - Episode 15) Izzy - 18th (Up The Creek - Episode 8) and 7th (Wawanakwa gone Wild! - Episode 20)

This only applies for Total Drama Island. When Eva gets Eliminated, Izzy gets eliminated 5 Episodes later.

Eva - 3 and 15 Izzy - 8 and 20 —Preceding unsigned comment added by CartoonNetworkTvTv (talk • contribs) 19:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Ummmmm... There's something wrong with the elimination. It says Geoff was eliminated first, Ezekiel was eliminated 18th or something, and Gwen won. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.6.144 (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Do the Merger
It is a good merger but you should take off 2 unimportant lines to do so. It should happen.

Campers names
1:Eva

2:Justin

3:Noah

4:Ezekiel

5:Izzy

6:Bridgette

7:Gwen

8:Owen

9:Cody

10:Trent

11:Geoff

12:D.J.

13:Linsay

14:Beth

15:Duncan

16:Courtney

17:Sadie

18:Katie

19:Lashawna

20:Harold

21:Heather

22:Tyler

dunno if this helps, but
I found episode 15 on Youtube. Perhaps this can help w/ citation?JIMfoamy1 (talk) 22:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Youtube is not considered reliable enough. Lots42 (talk) 04:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bottom 3
Come on, we really don't need the bottom 3. Only the loser. Lots42 (talk) 04:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Delete
Delete the whole mess and start over. That's the only way to be sure. Lots42 (talk) 01:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

You're wrong! The elimination is just fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.3.196 (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request
Due to user 96.231.133.103 constant vandalism on the main page in the elimination table. Wifishark (talk) 18:35, 7 March 2011 (UTC−05)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please specify what should be edited in the table, or whether all of the IP's edits should be reverted. —C.Fred (talk) 23:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to protect it for vadalisum, false information, look at past history of user 96.231.133.103 on the article (talk) 12:11, 8 March 2011 (UTC−05)

Episode One on the Elimination Table
Why do we need this? It's just a span of INs, and there was no challenge at all. I think it would be better if the table was off like how it was in the old reversions; it just went to episode 2, and had a footnote that no challenge took place. Great Pikmin Fan ( TD ) ( Talk ) 22:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

uh
wasnt there some explicit content of a fat guy dancing while naked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.211.43 (talk) 23:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Yup, there was, but was deleted since the image was too inappropriate. Giggett (talk) 19:25, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Cartoon Network
When did they stop airing reruns on Cartoon Network? I'm confused. 174.54.131.57 (talk) 23:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Possibly since they are taking forever to air Season 4, Cartoon Network got tired of the same old Total Drama that they stopped airing it. Meaning that no new content, no more re-runs. Giggett (talk) 19:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Elimination Table????
Uhhhhh what happened? That was so much easier then trying to read along the episodes summaries! It's simpler to see what team won, who was at risk of being eliminated, or who won an individual challenge. Bring it back please!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 (talk) 18:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, an elimination table does make it more simple to see who were the winners, who were eliminated, and who won the challenges, but note that all of that stuff is trivia, and we don't need to show all of that information here on Wikipedia. But there is a place to store all of that information, it's called the "Total Drama Wiki". Giggett (talk) 19:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Eliminations on Episode Tables
I've had a problem with a user with a changing IP that keeps adding eliminations on the episode tables several times. A few months ago we all agreed that eliminations were to no longer be added on these articles but this user just keeps adding them and as soon as I remove them, the user adds them back. I don't want to remove the eliminations again since I don't want to get into an edit war, so I'm asking if anyone reading this can remove those eliminations since I can't do it myself without being banned since I don't want to pass 3 reverts. Giggett (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I have removed them, with an edit summary referencing both the consensus that had been previously established here and that the information is redundant: the eliminations are mentioned in the prose description of the article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks, and by the way, it seems that the user has also added these eliminations on the Total Drama Action and the Total Drama World Tour articles. I'll go ahead and add this section on those articles too. Giggett (talk) 02:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia got a error on total drama island
The only correct winner on wikipedia is the first season all the other winners are wrong. fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.201.187.113 (talk) 22:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Elimination Table issues
There has been an elimination table titled "Voting History," which technically represents the tables that the Survivor pages have, as every season there is a table that tells who voted for whom. However, there is a major problem with that table: it is not based on reliable information, as not all the votes from Total Drama Island were ever revealed. Therefore, I suggest using another format for an elimination table that suggests if a camper was either safe, low or eliminated from the bonfire ceremony, in a similar manner that Survivor voting history tables do, but with a status history table. Personally, I have tried modifying this error multiple times, but a user keeps reverting the edition to the voting history with unreliable information. Freddy7GL (talk) 02:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Freddy7GL