Talk:Touman

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Huns were not Turks, Turks are not Huns. There is no reason to have the "Turkish version" of any Huns like Toumen or Modu as it is completely irrelevant how they may write it in modern-day history books in Turkey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.19.102.5 (talk) 14:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I should also add that you mispelled "Hsiungnu"...there is an 'S' after the 'H' in the Wade-Giles romanization system of chinese. In Pinyin it is just "Xiongnu" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.19.102.5 (talk) 14:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Huns were no turks as you know them today, but they are the first proto-turkic tibe, the names you are stating are the chinese names. Ask any turkic person and they will not know who you are talking about.86.89.234.27 (talk) 21:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The Ethnicity or ethnicities and language(s) of the Xiongnu remain unknown
While there has been a great deal of speculation about the ethnic connections and language(s) of the Xiongnu, especially as regards the possibility that they may have been the ancestors of the Huns who later invaded Europe, but there has, as yet, been no consensus among scholars. See, for example, Christopher I Beckwith's book, Empires of the Silk Road (2009), pp. 72-73 and 404-405, n. 51. I am, therefore, removing the stub links to several other nations and nationalities which amount to maintain the Wikipedia's policy of a 'Neutral point of view'. See:. Sincerely, John Hill (talk) 02:23, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Map
The map is asynchronous with the article, it belongs to the later period of his son, where it is shown. Touman was a dependency of Uuezhi/Tochars, and had his son with them as a hostage. The map should have shown Tochars and Dunhu, their neighbors. During Touman, Gansu was Uuezhi/Tochars land, his son purged them from Gansu. Huns were located in the now deserted Takla Makan and Tarim Basin and vicinities, immediately south of the Tele tribes. Barefact (talk) 11:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)