Talk:Tourism in England

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Liverpool's a world heritage site and one of the top five tourist destinations in the UK. So I'm moving it in order to reflect on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.175.133 (talk) 19:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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Content copied from Wikitravel

 * The content here did seem to be from Wikitravel (in fact some of it looked to have been originally copied from Wikipedia articles like fauna of England, via Wikitravel), but that website is CC-licenced, and may be a reasonable starting point for filling out an otherwise skeletal article, if sources were added and it rewritten for tone. I did ask User:Alen232 to confirm that they'd copied it directly from Wikitravel rather than some other site which had reused the same content, but they haven't clarified yet.

Having said that, I'm not familiar with the Wikitravel site, so don't know how thoroughly its users check for and remove copyrighted content. (There is some "do not copy and paste from other websites" deletion in its history of the England page, but it seems to be text taken from Wikipedia.) --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I do realize that it's compatibly licensed, but none of it has sources. Some may be suitable for inclusion here if properly attributed per the terms of the license, and if sources can be found.— Diannaa (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I gave it a quick pass and took out and flagged a few questionable statements. Most of it seems to be uncontroversial lists of places with no particular claims made beyond them being a certain type of tourist destination in England. Would it be acceptable to restore the content after a closer check for unlikely claims, with unsourced templates applied to the sections that need it?
 * What further attribution would be needed? I'd put a at the end of the article. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The main reason I removed it is because it is devoid of citations. — Diannaa (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

COVID pandemic MASSIVE IMPACT on tourism for a year already... AND continuing
Tourism in Cumbria has endured an "extraordinarily difficult" year but can "come back stronger than ever", a travel industry boss has said. (And this is just one region of many that have been suffering for a year.) https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-55804337

And not a word about it in this encyclopedia page. This is not something that lasted a short time; it will continue to have a huge impact in tourism for another year at least. In spite of England's optimism.

This is the current situation, a year after it all started; unless it changes dramatically, another year of major losses for the industry.

United Kingdom The United Kingdom is currently in a full national lockdown, with restrictions expected to start lifting in March, and full lockdown eased by June.

All arrivals into the UK must show a negative PCR test, fill in a passenger locator form and quarantine for 10 days.

Arrivals from high-risk countries will have to quarantine in government-managed hotels for 10 days at a personal cost of £1,750 (2,000 Euros) per person. More information, including the list of high-risk countries, here.

There are fines of up to £10,000 (11,450 Euros) and prison time if quarantine rules are not followed.

Scotland is strongly discouraging arrivals into the country. From 15 February, all arrivals, regardless of what country they travelled from, will have to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days, at a cost of £1,750 (2,000 Euros). Travellers who arrive in England whose final destination is Scotland will have to quarantine in England.https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/01/25/what-s-the-latest-on-european-travel-restrictions

People arriving in the UK now face coronavirus tests and quarantine, and some must pay to self-isolate at a hotel. They also have to show proof of a negative Covid-19 test taken within 72 hours before travelling, to be allowed entry. Travellers must then self-isolate for 10 days on arrival. Those who fail to quarantine in a designated hotel face fines of £5,000 to £10,000. https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52544307 Peter K Burian (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * With the Third Wave in Europe, the tourism situation may get worse: Lord Bethell, also warned the UK might put "all our European neighbours" on the red list of countries, where arrivals are either banned or put in quarantine hotels. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56486067 Peter K Burian (talk) 20:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Vaccine passports might open a bit of tourism
Might allow people from other countries in, if they have been fully vaccinated.

''When asked on Monday about the prospect of a traffic light system linked to vaccine passports, the prime minister’s spokesperson did not deny the suggestion, but urged people to wait for the reviews to conclude on 12 April. “The travel taskforce is looking at travel,” they said. “I can’t preempt that.”

Johnson has spoken before about his discomfort with vaccine passports and certificates, but signalled they may be a necessary way to reopen sectors of society. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/22/uk-considers-covid-traffic-light-system-for-international-travel Peter K Burian (talk) 21:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

COVID 19 is still a huge problem but still no section about Pandemic in this article
Surely the article needs a section about the pandemic, in addition to a short blurb in the lead.

England’s top paid attraction, which normally draws more than 3 million visitors a year, the Tower of London has been closed for all but a dozen weeks since the pandemic began and international tourism to London came to an almost-complete standstill. https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-england-london-europe-coronavirus-pandemic-ed962480e6085378a409e12539e09204?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Wednesday_Morning_Wire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers Peter K Burian (talk) 19:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Update, restrictions continue to affect tourism
People who live in the UK will be able to start travelling within the UK so tourism should improve. But still not ideal for tourists from other countries: How many want to spend 10 days in a hotel for the quarantine?? '''All visitors must quarantine for 10 days on arrival. Depending on country of origin, this will either take place at a hotel or at your place of residence.''' https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/uk-travel-covid-19/index.html

All shops in England will be allowed to reopen from next Monday, while pubs and restaurants will be allowed to serve customers outdoors, in line with the previously announced roadmap for easing restrictions. https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2021/apr/05/travel-industry-frustrated-by-lack-of-clarity-on-road-map-to-reopening?utm_term=c1fcf2545f90c58a6f9d31417086533c&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email

Visitors from the countries on the "red list," are barred from entry, unless they're UK residents/ There's still not much to do in the UK right now, the country has been in full lockdown since early January. Although this lockdown is now being eased -- in line with Prime Minister Boris Johnson's roadmap for the England's path out of lockdown -- some restrictions will likely be in place until the summer. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/uk-travel-covid-19/index.html Peter K Burian (talk) 13:59, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

New section added: Effects of the pandemic on tourism
On my Talk page, Lord Belbury suggested that someone needed to update Tourism in the UK with the effects and recommended a WP:BEBOLD. I presume that also applies to Tourism in England.

I have done so, adding a new section about this topic. Peter K Burian (talk) 13:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is helpful, but may be too much on the side of WP:RECENTISM now that it's making up more than half of the article's text. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Lead
The jarring middle paragraph tells us nothing about tourism in England and serves only to inform readers that Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, France, the Channel Islands, and the North Sea exist in the vicinity of England.

"England is the largest of the four "home nations" that make up the United Kingdom. It is also the most populous of the four with almost 52 million inhabitants (roughly 84% of the total population of the UK). On the island of Great Britain, Scotland sits to the north of England and Wales is to the west. Northern Ireland (also part of the UK) and the Republic of Ireland lie across the Irish Sea to west of England (and Wales). France and the Channel Islands are across the English Channel to the south, and to the east is the North Sea."

I propose deleting it... Firebrace (talk) 17:44, 29 December 2021 (UTC)