Talk:Township (South Africa)

Education Section
I agree that this section doesn't really fit well in this article.

Legal definition of the term township in South Africa
What exactly is the definition of the term township in South Africa? 168.209.98.35 14:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about legalities, but I'll quote you the Oxford Dictionary of South African English (2002) - 'township, n. (in South Africa) a suburb or city of predominantly black occupation, formerly officially designated for black occupation by apartheid legislation.' Joziboy 4 March 2006, 20:01 (UTC)


 * they appear to be cadastral units for use on land titles, along with "erf" - see google --Astrokey 44 21:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
I think the line Many townships in South Africa experienced (sometimes violent) protests against a perceived lack of service delivery in 2005 and 2006 [1]. is POV. The qualifier "perceived" erodes the creditibility of the protesters who faced real problems, not perceived problems. This section is important to the article and could use more fleshing out in addition to being rewritten for NPOV. --65.97.22.181 15:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The article linked to at the bottom has almost zero information regarding this and is a poor source. Another article, POV or not, really needs to be found because this article, like most on Wikipedia, has almost no citation or documentation. JD79 15:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Here is the text that was NPOV:

Many townships in South Africa experienced (sometimes violent) protests against a perceived lack of service delivery in 2005 and 2006.

I think it needs to be re-written, in a more factual form, before being re-included in the article. I've removed the POV tag, too. -Kieran 12:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Apartheid NPOV
The article seems to suggest that townships/locations were only created under the Apartheid government. Though many townships were established during Apartheid specifically to relocate non-white people the practice of creating townships or locations for non-Europeans on the outskirts of towns and cities predates Apartheid. I will make some changes and cite references for both Apartheid and pre-Apartheid townships. --NJR_ZA (talk) 21:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed Additions
Looking at this article and seeing how little information on the actually townships has inspired me to do some research and add some new sections to the article. I want to add a section on the difficulties in the townships and have many subsections on the types of issues faced for the residents. Some examples of this is the sewage, electricity, accessibility, and education. I would also like to add some recent pictures and more information on the parts that already exist. I have many new resources that I think will add a scholarly aspect to the page in order to give people a better sense of what it really is like to live in the townships but with reliable statistics and non-biased perspective. Clwilson91 (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

HIV/AIDS in South African townships
As part of an intensive course study this semester, I would like to create a new Wikipedia article entitled "HIV/AIDS in South African townships" that describes HIV/AIDS prevalence statistics in townships, traditional beliefs about the disease, the effects of HIV/AIDS on men, women, and children, HIV/AIDS education in townships, prevention and treatment, and government and NGO attempts to address the epidemic. Wikipedia currently has thorough articles addressing HIV/AIDS in South Africa and township conditions (this article). However, Wikipedia does not demonstrate a link between HIV/AIDS and poverty or describe the long-term effects of apartheid on health disparities in South Africa. Although direct racial segregation and discrimination are no longer legal in South Africa, the aftermath of apartheid has left non-white South Africans in an extremely disadvantaged position. HIV/AIDS is prevalent in the entire country of South Africa, but it is concentrated in townships due to poverty and a lack of HIV/AIDS education and awareness programs. I want to create a new article about HIV/AIDS in South African townships to inform readers about the plight of apartheid victims, eighteen years after the legal disintegration of apartheid, in accessing health care and attaining HIV/AIDS education. I would ultimately like to create a subtopic about HIV/AIDS in this article that links to "HIV/AIDS in South African townships."

I welcome your comments and suggestions! Thanks!

Jak8 (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Highly biased
Just look at this sentence: "The government not like that the people using the sub-stations are not actual residents so they refuse to give them electricity but if they were to install more sub-stations then the problem would be solved" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.82.170.156 (talk) 18:32, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Largest townships
The links between Township and Neighbouring city/town are misleading.

Take, for example, Katlehong, Vosloorus and Thokoza. For all three, Alberton is by far the nearest town from the list in the table, yet it is only linked to Thokoza. Katlehong and Vosloorus are linked to towns that are much further away.

Or take Diepsloot, which is much closer to Midrand and Centurion than to Johannesburg.

Or take Orange Farm, which is much closer to Meyerton than to Johannesburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.161.116.190 (talk) 07:11, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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