Talk:Tré Cool

Rewriting needed
ZDFH This article needs to be rewritten to express a NPOV. The article, especially the "Role in the Band" section reads like a fan page. Ichabod 12:00, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tre's Accordion Skills
I know that ZDFHTre can play accordion. I'm noZDFHZt sure where it would fit in this article though? I know several GZDFHreen Day fansite will tell you he plays accordion and he also is shown playing one in the filmclip for 'Last Ride Out' if you need proof. :)Kokiri kid 0DFHZ9:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

neo nazi accusations
DFH these arDFZHe insanse. I removed them.--Alhutch 04:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

The Neo Nazi accusations are no mDFore insane than composing 50 little two bit articles on NFL football players. To remove them simply because you do not agree is unjustified. You have no arguments nor evidence against this article. --Kerryisfrench


 * I find them completely out of hand. Please source your statements, or we will unfortunately have to have them removed. Also, it is proper wiki style to not sign your name inside of the article space. Thanks, and welcome to Wikipedia! Kareeser|Talk! 00:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Even if you had no evidence against these accusations, you have no obligation to post that.--JJ

where are you getting this nazi idea, anyway? how are you, kerryisfrench, interpreting the songs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenday21 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

If he would be a nazi, maybe he also would be an American Football player. He would never bother to neither form or join a grunge band. That would be gay (as in daft). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.69.179 (talk) 01:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Picture?
Could someone upload a good quality picture of this guy, please?

5ii


 * Hi 5ii, the page would look nicer with a picture of Tré, however, I don't have a good picture to upload. If you could find a picture, perhaps you could upload it yourself, or tell me where it is... Kareeser|Talk! 21:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I have no idea how to upload pictures, sorry. I do have a few pictures though. What kind of one would be suitable?

5ii
 * Preferable one that you took yourself, and can be released under the GFDL. Also suitable are pictures that have been previously released under GFDL or with no copyright. Kareeser|Talk! 20:23, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I have one of him Naked... When he had green hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5ii (talk • contribs)


 * ... I'm afraid that won't do... sorry =P Kareeser|Talk! 14:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Awwww dang :( I have a normal one. How'd I go about uploading it, or giving it to you so you could upload it? 5ii

Don't worry about picture at polish Wiki there's no picture about someone of this band. Mataga 13:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Good news, Everyone!
I finally found a picture of Tré and have uploaded it. Hope that helps!

micoolio101 (talk)

Bad news, Everyone!
The picture got deleted.

Micoolio101 06:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Micoolio101

Ultimate Drummer?
I wrote in a while ago that a lot of people think tre is the ultimate drummer but it was deleted? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slayerx675 lmao(talk • contribs).
 * Hi Slayer, your edit was removed because it violate's Wikipedia' premise of a Neutral Point of View. Stating that Tre is the ultimate drummer is a personal opinion (or the opinion of a select few, and not the majority) violates that policy. Happy Editing! Kareeser|Talk! 00:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Well we could say that Green Day Proclaim Him As the Ultimate Drummer? Slayerx675 16:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sure every band proclaims their drummer to be the best. I don't think it's relavant, though I concur with the sentiment!--Jude 23:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure that some newspaper article says he is.All we gotta do is find it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.69.18 (talk) 01:39, 27 January 2007

Yeah, he is the most ultimate awesome drummer in the world. 71.175.71.73 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Jimmy

Not a chance

This place isn't supposed to discuss our opinions whether or not Tré is the best drummer in the world, huh? (BTW, he is the best rock drummer. =P) Archer 90 (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You guys are so, so out of touch with the music world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.15.169 (talk) 03:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Name (and Source of French Accent Mark)
Trés (pronounced tray) in french means very. so his name means very cool.

Does anybody not know that? 142.167.53.216 19:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC) I didn't 71.175.71.73 22:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Jimmy

Consolodated unsigned comments:
 * Actually, the correct spelling in french is "très cool", not "trés cool". Be careful of those treachous accents!
 * The French for "very cool" isn't "trés cool" but "très cool".

"Trè", or "Tre", or "Trey" also means three (Tre in Italian) and is used by many people who are a third of their name (such as Ernest Joseph "Trey" Anastasio III of Phish) So, since his real name is Frank Edwin Wright III, another reason for the nickname could be because he is a third. 75.179.150.252 (talk) 16:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Are there any official sources out there for whether his name has an accent at all? I note that the Greenday site often omits the accent mark (preferring just "Tre").KevinCuddeback (talk) 23:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

There is a citation on the page to a Larry Livermore blog post showing that Tre Cool should be spelled without an accent. Somebody should change the title/name of the page ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.150.245.204 (talk) 19:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Guitar?
Do we really need to have the part where it says that it is "implied" that Tre can play guitar? He actually CAN play guitar, its confirmed: He is the guitarist in 'All By Myself' and 'Like A Rat Does Cheese'. There are pictures of him playing guitar at the DC101 interview where he played 'Like A Rat Does Cheese' too. If anyone is still not convinced, I'll be glad to send out the picture :] Acidophilisation 21:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, send out the picture! micoolio101 talk

Yeah ive seen videos of him playing guitar and pictures

Heres a video of Tré playing All By Myself and Dominated love slave. This also proves Billie Joe can play drums. Tre Playing guitar on youtube —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doyler (talk • contribs).

Profanity and Spelling Mistakes
I realise that some of the music has swearing in it, but does an encyclopedia need to have that in it?

Also, there are some spelling and grammar mistakes that need to be run through spell check.


 * Dude you sound like my grandma..seriously..


 * Please sign your comments!


 * I ran a spell check through the article, as requested. The only debatable spelling is in this paragraph:
 * "About his influences, Tré confesses that he is mostly influenced by the legendary Keith Moon, whom he idolizes and who is a clear inspiration over his own drumming duties. He also says that as well as admiring his other favourite drummers like Charlie Watts and Ginger Baker, he also endeavours to stand on his own and be an original and stand-out drummer."


 * I suppose you could mean the words "Favourite" and "Endeavours" which are the British-English spellings of the words, and are completely acceptable. Please let us know exactly what you perceive as "spelling and grammar mistakes" and I'll get right on it!--Jude 23:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Picture
This article needs a picture. 62.31.56.73 20:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing this out! However, there's already a headline for this, please pay better attention.--Jude 23:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. http://media.photobucket.com/image/tre%20cool%202010/xXbilliejoeHot98Xx/world%20tour%202010/MA8.png?o=1 Joseph507357 (talk) 18:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Contradiction
Amazingly, this article manages to contradict itself. It says that "Tré does, however, have some songwriting credits and vocals on the band's albums. He wrote/sang the bonus track "All by Myself" on Dookie..." (Role In Green Day). However, the trivia section says that "Tré Cool did not actually write the song All by Myself. Billie Joe did." Evidently these sections were added by different authors. I'd have corrected it myself, however I'm unsure which one is actually true. So, if possible, could anyone get onto fixing this? Lukasa 20:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The information is still debatable. As I heard it, when dookie first came out, "All By Myself" was written by Billie Joe, performed by Tré Cool.  I think it would be best to say that Tré sings and plays guitar on the track, and not mention who wrote it.  Thank you for pointing that out!--Jude 23:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Is there any way that more people could watch this article. I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the changes that are being made.

Now it says his origin is Laytonville, California. I thought he was born in Frankfurt!?--Jude 06:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

just so everybody knows on the original copies of dookie it says billie joe wrote all by myself and tre sang so.... there ya go

Information
Who took all the information off this article? James P Twomey 19:57, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

third child????
I read on this page a while ago that tre was dating a canadian girl and she was pregnant. if anyone knows anything about that please post here:D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

German-American?
Let's clear this up. Is he actually half German and half American to be included in the German - Americans category or is he "German" because his father was an american soldier stationed in Germany? If this is actually the case, he definitely should be in this category. Norum (talk) 23:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the German (BRD) Authrities used to have a rigid policy on nationality. If you were like 20 or so amounts of generations away from Germany, you would be entitled to a German passport merely for existing. Seems liberal, but that was just half of it. Up until 1998, just being born in Germany was never good enough for having a (non-naturalized) Nationality of Germany, and it did take some cleaning up from the Chancellor of that time: Gerhard Schröder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.69.179 (talk) 01:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It certainly makes sense to refer to him as German American. The article and its references are unclear as to whether he was born to a soldier stationed in Germany or who had relocated there; the fact that he grew up in California strongly suggests the former. He's categorized as an American (of German descent), so it makes little sense to just refer to him as German in the lede. I'm changing it to German American. --BDD (talk) 16:43, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * His dad fought in the Vietnam war and was seemingly called Frank Edwin Wright Jr., so I'd say he was stationed in Germany when his son (Tré) was born. His mum's nationality, and his dad's ultimate ancestry, is less clear.--MartinUK (talk) 21:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Why does it still ridiculously say "German born American" in the opening paragraph? He's not German, he never was German. Being born on a US military base in Germany to American parents and then being brought up in the US doesn't make someone "German born". I'm sure it isn't usual Wikipedia procedure to describe someone that way in this situation. It should just say he's an American drummer, the info on where he was born is still available in the info box and early life section.

youngest member of band
There's a note at the beginning of the bio section that states he is the youngest member of the band. I don't challenge the accuracy of the statement, but I don't think its notable enough to warrant mentioning, especially at the beginning of the article. As all 3 members of the band were born in the same year (1972), to say they are all the same age carries a more accurate connotation than saying one is the youngest, which implies a somewhat significant age gap. Maybe if they were brothers it would be relevant, but they are not (to my knowledge) related in any way. It would be one thing if he were born in 72 and the other 2 guys with born in the mid-60s, or in the 80s, but as it is it seems like a pretty irrelevant piece of trivia.Aoystreck (talk) 07:27, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

vandalism
somebody just changed the section title "biography" to "( . Y . )i like to go poo in mah diapers( . Y . )" which is offensive as "( . Y . )" reprsents breasts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.188.137.39 (talk) 04:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Tré Cool
Not Tre Cool Joseph507357 (talk) 14:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

tagged for copypaste
The Life and career section is too closely copied from the bands bio page. Section needs complete rewrite or removal. Mjpresson (talk) 03:04, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (see:http://www.greendayauthority.com/band/tre.php}})
 * The text was copied from the website a long time ago here and over time it became a foundational copyvio. I removed some of it and reworded the rest. Thanks for picking up on it.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:54, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Personal life section
Why was the "Personal life" section removed? Was it because there were no reliable sources or what? Just curious because it is relevant to the article and I assumed I should discuss it before re-adding it. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to cause any rift
tre cool is on hatena flip note his name is blear on their ok just saying — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aylish friends (talk • contribs) 14:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Personal life
If anyone has any sources for the personal life section, please add them. Especially for the claim that he still lives with his ex-wife. I know that quite a few people regard that as true, but I've never seen a reliable source to support it. Since this is an article on a living person, any unsourced information will have to be removed. slimey 01  03:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Tre Cool → Tré Cool – .
 * Tré's name is stylized this way and is mention this way throughout the article so the main article should do the same since this is the way its correctly spelled Black Dragon  22:19, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm all for moving it. I think at one point it was decided the current title was better, but that was a while ago, and I think the fact that ¡Tré! has the accent would be good support. But regardless of whether or not the page is moved, I definitely agree that the page should reflect the title. slimey  01  02:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The article title should stay as it is now, with Tré Cool as the redirect it is now. Special characters not on a standard English keyboard should only be used if absolutely necessary. It's not here, and the article name(as well as many Google searches without the accent é, using only "Tre Cool") is best for the article. Also, the IMDB site uses Tre Cool, as well as the official fansite bio(Spam filter triggers link). Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 02:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * When you search Tré Cool on google it searches for Tre Cool as well so thats not a problem, But yes ¡Tré! and the other 2 both have special letters because that is the correct name and this is the correct name for him so the title should reflect the correct name. Also Tre and Tré could be pronounced differently because the "é" is different than a regular "e" and that is how it is pronounced. And since ¡Tré! is named after him they clearly just added "¡-!" around his name so it should definitely be moved. Black Dragon  02:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - I was expecting it to be a silly affectation, but actually it's well supported in printed sources: Kjersti Egerdahl Green Day: A Musical Biography 2009, Matt Doeden Green Day: Keeping Their Edge 2006. NB: en.wp doesn't use sites like IMDB as a source. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support; more accurate spelling. Of course we'd have a redirect, which would solve Dave Dial's problem. bobrayner (talk) 11:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we have reached an agreement that we should change the name. We have four that supported full on and 1 half supporter but his problems with it have been answered and it wont be a problem. Black Dragon  02:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

BLP Issues
Started to do a little cleanup but this one looks like a complete overhaul would be in order. There are fan sites used as references and it reads like a fan website itself. Need to keep in mind that this is a biography and as such needs to adhere to adhere to guidelines in WP:BLP, especially WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPSTYLE. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:39, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Removed WP:FANCRUFT yet again. Appears to be a few fansites that keep being used as references. If re-added without discussion, will request they be blacklisted. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

also know as...
The 'also known as' section lists Cool's birth name among his names. Is this how this section works? Looking at several other artists, this does not occur. I'd like to delete his birth name from the 'also known as' sectionRobbmonster (talk) 04:42, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Origin
I thought I'd talk about this before making the edit, but the infobox lists his origin as Willits, California. I know it's pretty close by, but didn't he actually grow up in Laytonville? Shouldn't it be changed to Laytonville? I know he went to high school in Willits, but still. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)