Talk:Tracer (Overwatch)

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tweet Victuallers (talk) 10:15, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Original FAC mentorship inquiry
Hey! So, I've been wanting to promote Tracer (Overwatch) to a featured article status for a while now. It's just a feeling I have with this particular article, and it'd be my first time going through this process. So, I went reading through the FAC process and it encourages first-timers to seek a mentor. Seeing how you're listed as one, and seeing how you've been super active on the main Overwatch article (which by the way I think we should nominate for GA-status soon), as well as other articles related to the game, I was wondering if you'd help me out with this FAC process? I'd be happy to listen to any feedback. Thanks for your help! :) Soulbust (talk) 08:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I can definitely with the guidance for that. The first thing that's probably more useful at this point is to get a copyedit on the article (which is always taken as a plus at FAC) which you can request from WP:LOCE. Three other quick points that I see on a 5-minute look:
 * Make sure the references are consistent. For example, some link to the publication, some don't. Whether you do or don't is a matter of taste but it needs to be consistent. Also make sure that publications are consistently formatted (italics).
 * The 3rd image (from the short) might be dinged as an unnecessary NFC image. Her infobox is fine, the posing controversy shot is clearly okay because that was a subject of discussion, but that last image seems unnecessary. IF you can support it better (articles discussing her look in the short) that would help.
 * I know I added about the LGBT stuff when it was revealed, but I didn't really follow up on that to see how if Blizzard was praised for adding that (knowing how this industry works). You might want to look around for that.
 * Finally, just double check that you have similar formats to other FA character articles from the VG project. I think you do, but it's been a while since I worked on a character FA so I don't know 100%. --M ASEM (t) 15:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the tips & help. I'll be copy+pasting this discussion onto the Tracer talk page for reference. Soulbust (talk) 06:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Copyedit request
So I've made |the request at the Guild of Copy Editors now. Just wikilinking here for any reference needed. Soulbust (talk) 22:56, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The copyedit has been completed, so I'm just wikilinking here. Soulbust (talk) 01:21, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

2nd copyedit request
As per a suggestion from the peer review, I've requested a further copy edit. And yes, I'm so, so late on this Soulbust (talk) 10:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

First appearance
Why is Tracer's first game listed as Heroes of the Storm? Granzymes (talk) 06:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, TIL that she was released in HotS a month before the game officially launched! Granzymes (talk) 06:40, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Restructuring
Judging off your edit history and particularly your contributions to GA-level video game articles, I don't doubt you want to improve this one. Suggesting I want this article to "still" "be awful" in your edit summary isn't a helpful way to accomplish that goal. (And given this article itself is a GA-level one, calling it "awful" is a funny take.)

That being said, there is actually not an issue at all with the sentences that follow up the poster girl/mascot sentence. It is pretty standard routine to attribute what exactly is being said to who exactly is saying what about the character in their reception of characters or media. In the sentences that follow up the poster girl one, those sources are adding to the point that Tracer is Overwatch's mascot, by calling her iconic, etc. etc. These sources also help form a cohesive paragraph about one, central topic: how Tracer is considered/viewed by video game media writers (and how video game media writers have noted how fans similarly consider her) as one of the most prominent/iconic characters in Overwatch (if not the most in that franchise), as well as in modern video games. This is particularly the sentiment when it comes to LGBTQ+ character representation in video games.

So with that in mind, I'll go ahead and probably condense it a bit because the Hardcore Gamer and Kotaku source in this section both call her the most iconic Overwatch character in specific. I'll possibly be able to work the Glixel and PC Gamer sources into a sentence (or 2) that go along with those Hardcore Gamer and Kotaku sources, since they share a similar (but to be clear, distinct sentiment). The Daily Dot and especially the Polygon sources seem rather pertinent to Tracer's reception, so aside from placement in the section I'll overwhelmingly likely leave them largely untouched.

Thanks for your interest in this article. I've worked pretty hard on it for seven years now, getting it through the GAN process, asking for a peer review and copyediting on it, etc. So I appreciate you wanting to improve but I'll have to ask you to not go ahead and state that I want the article to be awful. I pretty obviously want the opposite. Thanks and best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 21:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)