Talk:Trade show/Archive 1

Historical perspective
IT would be nice to see something on the historical evolution of trade fairs, with some citations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.192.154 (talk)
 * The need for Trade Fairs has started from 1980's and with full swing from 1998-2000. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Contributions/ (talk) 221.134.30.5
 * I was just looking at a book that includes a photograph from a trade show in 1927. So clearly trade shows aren't just a recent phenomena. I actually looked up this article hoping to read about the history of trade shows. 69.95.50.15 16:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Trade shows exist since approx. 1200. I need to go to my sources for details. Trade show in the sense of samples shows, which is today the predominant, but not the only type of trade shows, started around 1900. I will integrate that soon.--Expoandconsulting (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)expoandconsulting--Expoandconsulting (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

List of major trade fairs
This list is becoming a directory for any and all trade fairs. I suggest setting a minimum published attendance of 50,000 as an entry bar for this list. With an understanding that if there's a consensus from editors to include a smaller fair because of other notable factors then we do. Does that sound reasonable? --Siobhan Hansa 15:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've finally made this change - only fairs with attendance over 50,000 unless we get build consensus here to make an exception in a specific case. The next task would be to get references over the next few months - in my searches I have discovered that this table has been copied by a great many websites - many of them not quoting Wikipedia, so if you look for references, be very wary of any that are laid out in table format with others!.  -- SiobhanHansa 14:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest to forget about a table of major trade fairs. UFI, the world trade fair association estimates (!) that there are more than 1500 "pilot trade fairs", which set the tone and path in their industries. Do you want to cope with that? Perhaps to identify for the major industry the most importnt event, but not to give current dates, please.--Expoandconsulting (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC) I suggest to include instead links to very sophisticated and always updated databases like www.eventseye.com or the even better www.expodatabase.de.--Expoandconsulting (talk) 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)expoandconsulting

CeBIT?
The title says it all. It's not in the list. Why? --NetRolller 3D  20:00, 26 June 2007 (UTC)Yes the current list of trade shows is quite unreliable and definitely not the biggest of the shows.The size of the show is generally measured by area (SQM)sold, Exhibitors and visitors.There are lot of sources on the internet to get this information including sited of UFI and Auma.Few private trade show portals like tradeshowalerts.com, biztradeshows, eventful.com can also greatly help on the subject.

DigitalLife
Here's the link. http://www.digitallife.com/newyork/flash.html It was also in the news recently, especially locally here in NY/NJ area. It's kind of a E3/CES mix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottymoze (talk • contribs) 13:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

NAMM
The Winter NAMM show (for music products) has an estimated 80000+ attendants. I'd consider this one to be added to the major trade show list.--97.96.227.57 (talk) 01:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I've put it in. The page is open to editing - you can add others you find yourself if you like.  -- SiobhanHansa 02:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

How to host a trade fair
I have searched Google a bit and have not found a nice source for designing and hosting your own trade show. I would like to see some guidelines for that. Such as picking a venue, advertising, market research, expenses, revenues, etc. Dustingraham (talk) 03:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC) Dustin Graham

Agricultural Fieldays
Ag Quip, Gunnedah NSW the largest of its type in Australia held each August and in June: National Agricultural Fieldays near Hamilton, NZ Cgoodwin (talk) 04:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They both meet our current standard for inclusion (+50K visitors). I've added them in along with Royal Sydney Easter Show. I don't see any independent verification of the largest claim for AgQuip so I left that out, but if you know of a link to a reliable (audited numbers or such) source that would be a nice tidbit to include.  -- SiobhanHansa 11:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Split of list? Increase criteria?
The list id getting fairly long and, I think, dominates the article a bit too much. I propose either increasing the standard criteria (100,000 attendance say), or splitting into a separate article. We may need to increase the criteria anyway. Having looked through the article agricultural shows I've realized there will be dozens just of theses that meet our 50K criteria.

In some senses I think it would make sense to only have shows that have international importance in the list but I'm not sure how we'd demonstrate this. We'd need several experts from each field to get together and agree on which were they x most important shows in their field. Could get messy - not to mention we don't have those experts easily available.

Any thoughts?

-- SiobhanHansa 11:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * (Belatedly...) I agree entirely. For starters I would suggest increasing the attendance criterion to 200,000, which should trim the list down dramatically. In an ideal world I would also want to distinguish between those where a great deal of the attendance is obviously public (e.g. the Cairo book fair) as opposed to B2B, but I'm not sure we can do that without OR.


 * I wonder if there is an international association of trade fair organisers which publishes a list of the world's biggest? Barnabypage (talk) 12:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I added MINExpo International, while under any "minimum attendance" criteria that has been listed, it is the largest mining trade show in the world.--kelapstick (talk) 16:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Trade Shows : Their Relevance
Trade Shows are considered to be an important platform for all types of businesses - Small, Medium & Large. They cater to a large segment of any particular industry & hence serve to a large proportion of users.

Some of the interesting observations about trade shows include:

- Trade Shows provide an ideal platform for new product / service launches. They save a lot of money & reach target audience without much efforts.

- Trade Shows provide easy reach to target audience. Most of the people visiting these shows are very relevant & industry specific.

- Trade shows also save the company time and money for the buyers by bringing different vendors together under one roof

- Trade Shows also help buyers in identifying the right product & right vendor as it offers them easy comparion of price & product. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mithunshettychina (talk • contribs) 07:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Book Fairs
I followed the Book fairs link and was redirected here, but I do not think book fairs belong with this listing. Book fairs, especially antiquarian or used and rare book fairs, are a place where book dealers offer their wares to the general public. They do, of course, sell to each other, usually with trade discounts and generally before the fair opens to the general public, but book fairs are primarily for the benefit of the bookbuying public, not to keep up with the latest and greatest in the trade. Besides antiquarian-type bookfairs, I believe there are also true trade fairs where booksellers can buy stock. Book festivals (Literary festivals) have their own entry. I am new to wikipedia and I really don't know what the next step might be, besides bringing this to the attention of someone who reads this page.Roxxette (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You're right - it's misleading; although obviously the thinking was that events like the Frankfurt Book Fair are trade fairs, there are - as you say - many "book fairs" that aren't. Indeed, they're probably in the vast majority in terms of the number of events, if not the numbers of people that attend.
 * The sensible next step would to be create a separate article on book fairs, pointing out that some are trade fairs, and some are essentially markets. I don't have time to do it at this very moment: do you?
 * I appreciate that you're new to Wikipedia, and if the thought of creating an article from scratch fills you with dread(!), please do feel free to draft some text and post it here - I or another editor could then create the article using that text. Barnabypage (talk) 14:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

List needs maintenance
Badly. Any idea? -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 14:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * List is still in really bad shape two years later. This article obviously doesn't get much attention.  I'll remove a few of the blatantly non-notable entries.  — Satori Son 15:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * See earlier discussion at Talk:Trade show/Archive 1. The 200,000+ attendance cut-off sounds reasonable to me, but for now I'll just be conservative and delete those with less than 100,000. Would be nice to get some other editor's opinions again, obviously. — Satori Son 16:03, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. I left those listings with their own article, since they're presumably notable despite a smaller attendance figure. — Satori Son 16:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I replaced the never read guideline in comments by a title, keeping the 50,000 visitors cutoff : below 100,000 I was removing widely know trade shows like E3 or Mobile World Congress Barcelona.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 17:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

"Part of a Series On Automation" sidebar?
That sidebar doesn't make any sense. Certainly there are trade shows about automation. But trade shows generally do not seem to have any closer connection to automation (or being a subcategory of automation, which is the usual purpose for "series of") than, say, the trade of selling books, which are actually discussed in the article. I propose it be deleted. xenotrope (talk) 16:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)