Talk:Tragic Overture (Brahms)

Jackson and Webster?
"Theorists have disagreed in analyzing the form of the piece: Jackson finds Webster's multifarious description rather obscurist..."

Maybe this is something that "any fan of Brahms" or "any classical music scholar" would know - and Jackson is footnoted - but my reaction to this sentence was "Who the h*ll are Jackson and Webster?"

I don't know enough to answer my own question and hence don't know enough to provide the needed edit. I imagine an improvement would be something like:

Theorists have disageed in analyzing the form of the piece. Historically Bigglesworth M. Webster's analysis of the piece as XXXXXXX has held sway, but Timothy L. Jackson finds Webster's multifarious description rather obscurist and prefers to label the work's form as a "reversed sonata design" in which the second group is recapitulated before the first, with Beethoven's Coriolan Overture as a possible formal model.[1]

Preferably with links to entries on Mr. Webster and Mr. Jackson so we can find out why we should care about their opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.224.50 (talk) 12:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, you were able to figure out that Webster and Jackson are music theorists. But still, this could be clearer. My main motivation for adding that paragraph almost two months ago was that I didn't see some tagging idiot slap on an "unreferenced" tag. But I guess now they could slap on a "jargon" tag. Willi Gers07 (talk) 19:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

New audio sample
We now have a new audio sample. --Gnom (talk) 20:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC)