Talk:Trailer (promotion)/Archives/2012

Pride and Prejudice
I'm putting in Pride and Prejudice, it won best Romance trailer at the Golden Trailer awards, beating Brokeback Mountain. Here it is:http://upload.wikimedia.org/skins/common/images/button_media.png File link http://upload.wikimedia.org/skins/common/images/button_math.png Mathematical formulahttp://upload.wikimedia.org/skins/common/images/button_math.png Mathematical formula (LaTeX) (LaTeX) Bhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/skins/common/images/button_bold.png Bold textest Romance http://upload.wikimedia.org/skins/common/images/button_math.png Mathematical formula (LaTeX) Pride and Prejudice, Focus Features, Mojo LLC

Brokeback Mountain, Focus Features, Seismic Productions

Casanova, Walt Disney Pictures, Big Picture Entertainment

Must Love Dogs, Warner Bros., Open Road Ent.

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17:00, 17 July 2006 (PST)

Not sure where to put it, but I'd say a mention of an award for trailers, The Golden Hitch (...), deserves a mention. See http://www.goldentrailer.com/ Trekphiler 17:46, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Is there any information available on the parody "turn your cell phone off" trailers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.193.94.173 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 9 January 2006
 * Are they really trailers? Arn't they a combination of ads and information about turning the phonee of?/ Lokal Profil 22:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Narration
Has anyone noticed that since the death of Don Lafontaine there has been less and less narration on trailers? It seems the use of titles is becoming more popular. I think this is an interesting phenomenon that should be addressed in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.86.50 (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Out of date
This article is hopelessly out of date. Ity barely mentions the phenomenal rise of video clip trailers on the internet and really needs a paragraph on the subject, TV Genius 13:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It actually says "Trailers have become immeasurably more important on the internet during 2006." - wt... trailers have been around on the internet for years and nothing too important in 2006 has happend to make them "immeasurably" so... &mdash;EatMyShortz 16:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Notable trailers
Exactly what makes these notable? With entries like Superman Returns and Dead Man's Chest in there, it seems like this has just become a "blockbusters of the summer" list. &mdash;EatMyShortz 16:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with you, as I was going to start a topic, but you beat me to it! If we don't define why these trailers are notable, but just make a list of movie trailers that we personally like (or some other basis), this list serves no purpose but listcruft. Either have somebody define the section, with supporting evidence of notability to specific films, or the section should be deleted. --Porqin 19:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I see this discussion went nowhere. I've looked through the list and it has turned into just that...with many items duplicating previously listed.  This would be better suited as a section discussing the use of cliches/elements of a traielr for humor.  I'll do some cleanup and see what omes of it. 66.41.215.226 (talk) 16:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Satire
Including a reference to Pablo Francisco for his satire of the movie trailer might be good to include. Hoagie3000 15:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Or video games?
With an entire site existing dedicated to video game trailers, I think that while we shouldn't make a section SPECIFICALLY for games, it's worth noting somewhere in there that there are now about as many trailers for video games as there are for movies.
 * I'm not sure that's accurate. Certainly not produced in the same manner or for the same audience as theatrical films, and the article is about Film Trailers, not Video Game Trailers. There are over 450 U.S. films released a year and many foreign films in addition to that.  Major releases often have a Teaser, a Trailer and a Review Trailer. Bsteph1 (talk) 06:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Apple's Final Cut Pro
There is no reference when saying "Most of prominent trailer cutting companies, Aspect Ratio, Trailer Park, and New Wave Media, have their editors work on Apple's Final Cut Pro." and it sounds more like a commercial. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 19:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Why was 'Parts of a Trailer' nuked?
Some time around may 15, this entire section was deleted. This was a very interesting and accurate description of the parts of a trailer, laid out in a good manner. Can someone restore this?

I agree with this observation. I think the breakbown of a trailer into its component parts is vital to understanding the rethorical techniques used to create interest and suspense are —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.55.180 (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Contradiction
The article states that trailers are designed not to give away spoilers then says that trailers often tell the exact story of the movie even giving away 'twists' - The article is in need of a overhaul to correct this internal contradiction as well as achieve an overall coherence.

Yes and No
After reading these above notes, and having done some research on movie trailers, I have these comments and suggestions.

1. Teaser/Trailers are a major and essential part of the movie marketing scheme, and therefore are notable. They are unique in that they usually do not include scenes from the movie as has been noted. But their purpose, their creativity and their place in theatrical marketing is of near equal value. Portions of the Teaser article might be folded into Trailers, and lose the other junk stuff.

2. Naming one set of Golden Trailer winners sort of mandates you list all winners for as many years as the Golden Trailer and Key Art Awards have been around. That's a big list.

3. While video game trailers are also fun, there are not as many video trailers as movie trailers, and as huge as that industry is, video games are not movies (yet), so do not fit into an article about movie trailers. Possibly for an article about video game marketing, or musical composition for advertising and marketing.

4. The term and mention of video clip trailer, as in YouTube clips, is a misnomer and is not relevant because these are not trailers, they are not studio created. They are most often snippets copied from the movie by consumers and are unofficial and quite often unapproved by the MPAA process. Home movie, consumer-created movie-style clip shows are not what the article is about. It's about professional trailers. When a studio 'does' create a set of clips for MySpace, YouTube or other social network sites, they are merely posting scenes, not artistically created trailers, teaser trailers or even TV advertising, so "clips" on social network sites do not qualify for an article about the movie trailer industry.

5. The turn-your-cellphone-off, don't pirate movies, donate to xxx foundation or whatever, and ads for cars, softdrinks, TV shows or other product are not 'MOVIE TRAILERS' they are advertisements, commercials or PSA's (public service announcements).

Articles with limited geographic scope??
Movie trailers are produced and viewed around the world in theaters, on DVD, on broadcast and cable in over 100 languages. What prompted this negative tag as being to local for possible deletion? Bsteph1 21:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's flagged for expansion, not deletion. All the detail about green and red bands, etc. only refers to trailers in American cinemas. The rest of the world has different ratings systems. Chris 42 13:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's a good point, I pulled this portion of of the entire section that was flagged for clarity. Info about them should probably not be removed entirely, as a large number of trailers appear around the world with the MPAA cards still on them, so there's some merit to some (less wordy) inclusion as long as it's defined as being a U.S.-centric portion of a trailer.Bsteph1 00:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

US MPAA rating cards section
Why does this section have to contain the 'worldwide view' banner since the title of the section clearly narrows the scope to the United States? Just curious. Joshr915 (talk) 21:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Broader Question re: trailers
I realize this might not be the correct forum, but what is the "rule" regrading putting links of trailers up on the main movie website? For instance, apple.com/trailers keep most of the older trailers still searchable online. Would it be appropriate to link to those or other websites? Thanks. --Jophus00 (talk) 23:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fine to link to Apple, Hulu, Dark Horizons or other sites that feature trailers. In fact, the trailer and poster and official websites are all part of the campaign and should be included in the appropriate manner.

Red-band
Before Death Race, I saw previews for six other films. One of them, Quarantine, looked like a red-band preview (complete with the notation "The following PREVIEW has been approved for RESTRICTED AUDIENCES ONLY by the Motion Picture Association of America"), but instead of red, the card was GREEN! I tried to explain it properly on the article itself, but someone who hadn't seen the preview before must've removed it. --Ryanasaurus0077 (talk) 18:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC
 * Many people don't read a card properly that says the trailer has been rated for all audiences (green card) and the movie has been rated R or NC-17. However, if you did see that written on a green card, it was NOT the appropriate MPAA approved card. There is a new card that is green that indicated the preview is for APPROPRIATE AUDIENCES, which then gets a tag taped to the film for the theater owner to make the choice. Bsteph1 (talk) 06:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

About the merger
Don't know why this hasn't been discussed yet, but I disagree with merging this article with Film trailer. A teaser can be a totally separate thing... just look at the Cloverfield teaser... everyone was talking about it when it first hit. Then the trailer showed more detailed images (albeit small) of the monster, whereas the teaser never showed an actual monster. Just my thoughts... - stevenrasnick Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 7:43 (UTC).
 * I am in full favor of merging the articles. I think that a teaser trailer is in essence a film trailer, albeit a slightly different form. How much discussion is needed for such a merger to take place with a page? Dleav (talk) 10:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed a Teaser (Teaser/Trailer) is the same artistic form to the same audience and is simply a short version, a special shoot version or even a series of cards and audio to get you drawn to learn more. EMBEDDING the brand name (title)as early as possible is key. Bsteph1 (talk) 06:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I think part of the lack of discussion is that it is in fact being discussed bother here and at Talk:Teaser trailer. BTW, I support a merge as I stated on that page.Flygongengar (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Before they used green band trailer cards
There was usage of a dark blue trailer card with a narrow Times New Roman like font, using almost the same text as today ("This special preview has been approved for all audiences"). I think it was back in the 1960s-70s. Just throwing this idea out there, as this card was seen in the trailer in the Grease DVD, and a trailer for Empire Strikes Back on YouTube. --Addict 2006 05:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Blue band trailers
I see red, yellow and green on here, but I don't see blue. And not the dark blue as was previously mentioned, a bright blue band. Anyone noticed this in the newer movies? Is it a thing with blu-ray? Is it just another "Okay" color, like how the terror alert system is (except without the yellow)? Could it be a thing with films rented from Blockbuster? :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.196.133 (talk) 07:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The blue card is required on the end of every movie that goes through the MPAA process, regardless of the rating. It carries the official rating of the movie.  In theaters it is at the end of the movie. Many DVDs play it at the beginning - which may be a new rule by the MPAA.  The colored cards are only for trailers. Bsteph1 (talk) 15:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Film Trailer becomes Trailer (promotion)? Incorrect identifier
The article now titled Trailer (promotion) is entirely about MOVIE trailers, their history, content and usage, not book trailers, game trailers, TV show or concert event promos. If there is any justification to change its name, wouldn't it be to redirect to Movie Trailer or Trailer (Movie), replacing "film" with "movie" since in today's movie industry some MOVIES are not completed on film stock? WikiBob47 (talk) 15:37, 14 August 2011 (UTC)