Talk:Train of Thought (Dream Theater album)

Reception
In my opinion, the 'Reception' section's referral to the wordplay and lyrics of the album as "generic and simplistic" is far too opinionated. Fumbingehmer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fumbingehmer (talk • contribs) 01:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Title
Shouldn't this be Train of Thought (album)? It isn't necessary to disambiguate, as this is the only album on Wikipedia named "Train of Thought" - Idono
 * It's disambiguating it from Reflection Eternal (linked from Train of Thought), which could technically also stake a claim to Train of Thought (album). [[Image:Flag_of_Australia.svg|30px]] plattopustalk 11:12, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Are there two versions of this album? (Is that possible?) What I have bought doesnt mesh with the online lyrics. So in order to verfy it I downloaded some of the songs and found that there are different versions of the same songs. (The album I currently have is by Dream Theater no doubt - it doesnt sound like any other band.) Can someone please clarify this?

IM NOT SURE IF THIS IS ANY USE BUT I DOWNLOADED WHAT APPEARED TO BE 'AS I AM' (LASTS 3:34), THEN BOUGHT THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT ALBUM, NOTICING THAT AS I AM LASTED MORE THAN TWICE AS LONG AND SOUNDED DIFFERENT, THOUGH I STILL THINK THE 'ORIGINAL' SOUNDS LIKE DREAM THEATER BUT I DON'T KNOW LOL. FURTHER, I TRIED TO GET 'SHAZAM' TO TAG THE TRACK AND IT COULDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING. MY GUESS IS THAT IT IS A SONG BY AN OBSCURE BAND THAT WAS POSSIBLY REPRESENTED AS A LEAKED VERSION OF 'AS I AM'. IF ANYONE ELSE HAS UNCOVERED THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM, AND POSSIBLY FIND OUT THE ARTIST AND SONG TITLE, COS IT AIN'T HALF BAD LOL ````

The 3:34 song is "Not With Me" by the German band Superior, from their 1998 album Younique. 84.49.149.245 15:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


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PAGE MOVED, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 18:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Train of Thought (album) → Train of Thought (Dream Theater album) – Train of Thought is both an album by Dream Theater, and an album by Reflection Eternal. I have created the Train of Thought (Reflection Eternal album), and wikipedia naming and disambiguation convention says that the Dream Theater album should be renamed accordingly NPswimdude500 01:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey
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 * Support as per nomination. NPswimdude500 20:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Support As above. -- Beardo 02:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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Magnolia
Anybody have more information on the samples from the film Magnolia in Honor Thy Father? Sk ews 04:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think something about it should be incoorporated into the article. Many of the samples are from Magnolia, but other films are also sampled. See: this site. Hauberg (talk) 14:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I've just been watching Magnolia and that reminded me of this song... I did an analysis of Honor Thy Father as a project a couple of years ago and wasn't able to find the quotes that you just linked, are these on the main page anywhere? I think it would be helpful as some sort of reference, maybe in the misc section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.226.168 (talk) 09:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

The Magnolia samples are all lines spoken by the character Earl Partridge played by Jason Robards. In the film, Earl Partridge is a wealthy TV producer who is dying of lung cancer. In his final hours Partridge attempts to reconcile with his estranged son (Frank "TJ" Mackey, played by Tom Cruise). Partridge had abandoned his son, then in his early teens, and the boy's mother who was dying of cancer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.165.250 (talk) 04:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Miscellanea Section
This is pretty much a trivia section in disguise and not very encyclopedic. I reckon we can merge a lot of it into the main section and potentially lose anything left that we can't source. Opinions? Docta247 12:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I simply think some of the stuff in there is useless anyway - like the swear words comment. Sure, if it was written better, it could be merged up. InnocuousFox 12:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree that most of it has no real value and should really be removed but I guess I'm not yet bold enough :-) Docta247 12:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Dream theater tot.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Bootleg photo?
I have the bootleg cover on my computer as a picture file. And it isn't a fake... Its the cover of the real thing. Should I upload it...? Yes? No? DryBones744 (talk) 18:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

More reviews = uncorfirmed!
Here is another review of Train of Thought from MetalReview (http://metalreview.com/reviews/640/dream-theater-train-of-thought). Great rating, but why isn't it confirmed? I found it, when i checked the review scores on "Octavarium" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavarium_(album). It says "Professional ratings", then the other Dream Theater reviews from MetalReview must be professional as well, right?

Write it down! Christhedrummer95 (talk) 13:33, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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