Talk:Trams in Rouen

Translated
I've translated this pretty much in its entirety from the French, and so am marking the version here on the talk page. No doubt, it still requires a lot of cleanup (typos, rephrasing and so on) but I think reasonable to mark it thus at this point. Si Trew (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The first sections of the article continue to be very badly translated French (perhaps a machine translation??). If I have the time I'll try and rewrite them Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 17:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Chains
In the conversions of route distances from metric, I decided to use chains for the Imperial/US customary measure. This may seem like a wantonly obscure conversion, but at least in the UK chains are almost always used on older railway lines; I've used feet, miles etc for measures other than track miles. However, I do realise it may seem somewhat obscure, so perhaps it would be better to put them in yards or miles (depending on the magnitude)? Si Trew (talk) 08:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Its obscure but wp has an article on chains as a measurement and is fine with me and finding out about obscure info is what encyclopedias are about to a large degree. Linking to it at the first mention should suffice to direct readers to the clarify info - I don't think you need to link every mention of chain. Such links to other articles are encouraged by wp. I assume the info in Chain (length) is correct, I'm not sure why you called it a wrong link on my talk?Tttom1 (talk) 01:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't, I called it that in the edit summary, as I put the wrong link in the first place. will automatically link things if   is specified, so I think I will change it again to use that:   gives 20 km, and we can dispense with the hardcoded conversion. Si Trew (talk) 10:59, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that sentence which shows all 3 equivalent measures comparatively with a link to Chains article is fine, maybe remove parenthesis for feet. It gives the reader the gist of why you're mentioning chains relevant to tramway. Anything else is up to you to refine as you see fitting for clarity.Tttom1 (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

This is still too French
Looking back on this article after some time away, and being on an extended Wikibreak, I see this is still too French in the way the sentence run i.e. backwards. It is not a question of translation but or accuracy but of distance. Everything there is OK for facts but it doesn't flow properly in English. One can't sometimes see that until one steps aside for a while because one is in the intimacy of wikilinks and amd sp fprtj, I would not say it is a bad translation I did, and is accurate, but, but not good enough with the way of phrasing.

Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 08:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 22 July 2014

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 13:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Old Rouen tramway → Trams in Rouen – Current name of article is highly non-standard which makes it very hard to find when searching for it. Better name for the current article would be Trams in Rouen, which has evolved to the standard naming scheme used for articles on historical or long-standing city tram systems (e.g. Trams in Athens, Trams in Istanbul). (Please see the 'Discussion' section as to why Trams in Rouen is the preferred destination for this move of this article over Rouen tramway.) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 11:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC) IJBall (talk) 16:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

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Comment: The uncontroversial technical request for this move was declined on the grounds of: "I'm not at all clear why the Old Rouen article should go here, and not the new one, which would seem more sensible to me. The Istanbul article you linked to covers both old and new as far as I can see." My response is that, in fact, the focus of the Trams in Istanbul article is the original, first-generation tram system – the details on the modern Istanbul tram system is covered at a different article, Istanbul modern tramways. A similar arrangement exists with Trams in Athens (the historical system) and Athens Tram (the modern tram system operating since 2004). Similar arrangements can also be seen with articles on American streetcar systems, e.g. Streetcars in Cincinnati (first-generation streetcar system) vs. Cincinnati Streetcar (an under-construction modern streetcar system).

Thus, a similar arrangement would be created with the requested move of the Old Rouen tramway article, leading to a Trams in Rouen article (on the historical tram system) and Rouen tramway (on the modern tram system). One further point – all of the modern French tramway system articles have the naming scheme of "[City] tramway" so moving the Old Rouen tramway article to Rouen tramway over Trams in Rouen (or moving the current Rouen tramway article to Trams in Rouen) would upset the current French tram article naming convention. Please feel free to let me know if any of this is unclear, and I will attempt to clarify further. Thank you! --IJBall (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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