Talk:Trans Mountain Pipeline

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School Kids Editing?
It seems some school kids have been editing this article with all the errors. Perhaps some kind and knowledge person could fix this page up?

189.188.207.145 (talk) 00:07, 22 May 2016 (UTC) baden k.

Out of date; poorly written; repetitive
A lot of stuff that should be in past tense is in present, indicating it has been cut and pasted from newspaper accounts. It's also seriously outdated. No coverage of the arrests of the protesters or of KM's lawsuit against them, no notification that the BC government now is in favour of the project because its five conditions have been met. Seems as though those interested in telling us about the protest are a lot less interested in telling us how it came out. Theonemacduff (talk) 06:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Burnaby 2007
Read this in the article: "Burnaby 2007: A road crew ruptured a pipeline, causing 250,000 litres of crude oil to flow into Burrard Inlet Bay via the Burnaby storm sewer system. Eleven houses were sprayed with oil, and about 250 residents evacuated. Cleanup took more than a year. The Transportation Safety Board ruled the accident was the fault of Kinder Morgan, as it was responsible for ensuring the excavation crew knew the pipeline's exact location before they started digging.[12]" The cite at the end of the sentence says transmountain.com but that's actually the above quote is a word for word copy from a web page of a group named cred. Then read the actual report of the Transportation Safety Board (TSB): "It is not the function of the Board to assign fault ..." (and they didn't, though they observed mistakes and miscommunication by several parties including employees of the contractor and the consultant and the City of Burnaby and Kinder Morgan). TSB says it wasn't 250,000 litres it was 234,000 and of course it didn't all go into Burrard Inlet, TSB doesn't say how much did (transmountain.com says 40%) -- and 210,000 litres were recovered. TSB says "approximately 250 residents voluntarily left" (transmountain.com says 225 were "evacuated"). TSB and transmountain.com both express quantities in cubic metres, I can't see why there was a conversion to litres (multiply by 1000) unless it was to make the numbers look bigger. I conclude that cred is not a reliable source. Anybody want to defend them? Peter Gulutzan (talk) 14:57, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Seeing no defence, I have removed everything that depended on the unreliable source "cred". I also put in the titles of remaining cited references and changed the units to the units of the sources. In some cases what's left is only Transmountain's (possibly non-neutral?) description of spillage incidents, but at least the company's description of Burnaby 2007 is a reasonably close match of the Transportation Safety Board's description, so I think this source has some credibility, so I left it in. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 15:19, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Coverage on pro pipeline protests
There has been a growing number of of pro pipeline protests especially 2018. This aspect might need mentioning in this article. The whole pipeline is a controversial topic in Alberta. 2001:56A:F322:FC00:7D9B:7E85:A831:F445 (talk) 19:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Map
A map illustrating routes would help. Is there a skilled cartographer aboard? Regards, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)