Talk:Transgender representation in hip hop music

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Hey all! Your page is really good! I really like how you provided a basis in explaining what transgender means and the history of LGBT in hip hop.

As for notes, I have a few suggestions. -I would suggest throwing a little of Judith Butler in here, as she is the originator of the theory of gender as a performance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler -Branch out in the Transgender Artists in Hip Hop Section. I found D.Smith, a transgender Grammy Award winning producer, singer, and songwriter starring in the tv show Love&Hip Hop. http://www.vh1.com/news/257375/who-is-d-smith-first-transgender-woman-love-hip-hop-grammy-winner/ I also found Juliana Huxtable, a queer and trans DJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliana_Huxtable https://news.artnet.com/people/15-artists-commemorate-transgender-day-remembrance-361520 (Number 5).

-Expand into how art is activism and many trans artists will use their artistic platform as a way to speak about issues that impact them. (Angel Haze does this).

-Also just a thought on one sentence on your page “A transgender person is someone who identifies as a different gender identity than their biological and assigned gender from birth.” I would remove the word biological, as gender is not biological, it is an assigned social construction. You could word the sentence like “Someone who identifies as transgender does not identify as the gender that they were assigned at birth.”

That is all I have! You all are creating a really well done and expansive page. I can't wait to read it when it's done! Betsy C., from Electric Soul Six Canarycage (talk) 13:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Crew D's response: I think you all did a really great job on this article! It's very thorough and well researched and concise. The only thing I could think of fixing would be adding more transgender performers in hip hop; that's what the page is about and there are only 2 examples. I really like the background explanation and all the other info you guys have. Great job! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Callanc1 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I thought it was super helpful to give the disclaimer of what the overall article would be about before the actual work of writing itself, especially because it can help people maneuver through resources in a timely and according fashion. This wiki draft has a strong lead section that is easy to read, a clear structure, well organized (great flow), balanced coverage neutral content, and reliable sources (helpful that hyperlinked other wiki works). However, I found the sentence within the section, “LGBT Hip Hop History,” "Furthermore, LGBT Hip Hop is represented in not just the musical and rapping parts of hip hop, but LGBT visibility is seen through graffiti and breakdancing;" to be a bit informal. It broke the tone of formality that was being delivered in the rest of the work. Also, I want to make a note that the statement within, “What is “Transgender?,” When thinking about trans history many would believe that it has just started due to the many advantages in transgender equalization (and few set backs, see North Carolina's new bathroom policy), however trans history can be dated back much further in our history;” may need a citation. The information regarding the bathrooms in North Carolina, needs a source of that knowledge. -Ah Cho from CREW FUNKY FRE$H ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.140.197.98 (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey folks, First off, awesome topic! Really glad you all are working on this, and I think you've got an awesome start. I would give you a couple suggestions: I agree with Betsy, that sentence about biological gender needs a bit of altering... simply saying "assigned gender at birth" rather than "biological and assigned gender" would be more accurate. Also, I'm not sure you need such long sections on LGBT hip hop history and other notable queer artists who are/were not trans...? That doesn't really explain what they have to do with the focus of your page, which should be specific to transgender issues in hip hop, and I think they distract from the point of your article. Even though "T" is included in "LGBT", you need to be more specific about the identity you're discussing, because it's not generalizable. If you got into talking about trans people in hip hop earlier in the article, and maybe found a few more specifically trans artists to focus on, I think it would make more sense. And y'all talked broadly about LGBT Hip Hop and about homophobia in hip hop, but I think it may help if you focus specifically more on Transgender hip hop, and transphobia specifically, since those are related but not the same thing. Although many queer identities intersect, all LGBT people do not face the same types of discrimination, and I think it's important to make those kinds of distinctions. I know it's super hard to find sources about this stuff but... maybe less is more, don't try to fill space with stuff that's not super relevant. Just some suggestions! I did some searching... check out: Katastrophe, D.Smith, and maybe Foxxjazell. Also, maybe you can mention D'Lo that we talked about last week in class (from the Flipping the Gender Script reading). Keep on keepin' on! --Llamainpajamas (talk) 00:01, 20 April 2016 (UTC) for Ca$hin Out Crew