Talk:Transgressive fiction

Any article on transgressive fiction that neglects to even mention Lolita is not worth its weight in electrons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.18.145.144 (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be "transgressive fiction" rather than "transgressional fiction"?

Thoughts?


 * I agree. I've not heard 'transgressional' used in this context before. Matthew king 09:54, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I also agree. I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure Palahniuk used 'transgressive' in Postcards from the Future - in a question and answer period he defines the genre and mentions a couple examples. zed 21:07, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I too am only familiar with "transgressive fiction," and have never heard the term transgressional until here. Anyone up for making the change? - Sensorium 06:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

It's now 2008, and still no change from "transgressional" to "transgressive." --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 09:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone left a false message which led to the removal of the second half of the page dedicated to Transgressive Fiction. Is the second half of the article still on file somewhere? I want this second half to be returned, it was full of relevant and useful information. 99.235.216.70 (talk) 17:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's in the history section. It's a tab right next to the 'edit this page' tab. Zazaban (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

There used to be a list of titles and authors who contributed to Transgressive Fiction. This list has been removed. WHy has it been removed and how can it be restored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.105.71 (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Zazaban (talk) 19:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Non-existant category of fiction
Transgressive Fiction does exist, and has existed as long as the written word has been used to form a thought or idea dealing with taboo subject matter. Transgressive fiction was the earliest work censored, from the Marquis de Sade to William S. Burroughs. To question the exist of transgressive fiction is ignorant. These books exist, and there is no better way to categorize them. Perhaps it is a prudish statement, intended to dispell anything that disagrees with your own fragile beliefs. What else doesn't exist? Sodomy? Drug Abuse? Violence? You can't ignore something just because you don't believe in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.51.32 (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

By the same token, "sellic" fiction-- that is literary works that depict characters sitting in chairs-- has always existed. But are such works best understood as "sellic" or "transgressive"? Or does such a label obscure other aspects that made such works notable? Does it not reflect the narrow mind of the censor to look at everything accoridng to whether it depicts something that might make someone uncomfortable? *Perhaps* even you, like he rest of us, are a prude.208.68.128.91 (talk) 15:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

History
As others have pointed out there is great confusion in this section. There is no distinction made between works that transgressed societal norms at the time of their publication and works centered on characters who transgress societal norms. Transgressive fiction authors celebrate transgression. Many of the works cited here have quite different aims in mind. Putting de Sade in the same bucket with Moll Flanders is confusing to readers. (Is any novel with a prostitute as a main character supposed to be "transgressive"?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.190.221.2 (talk) 19:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Depends what the content is. Moll Flanders is about a sex worker who is relatively unashamed of what she does. It's not erotic fiction as the "Fanny Hill" novel is, because it doesn't go into much detail but it certainly revels in its main character with a few bits thrown in to keep censorship happy.


 * I know Americans love to revel in the idea that everything they do is new, but it's not and this isn't even the mainly American thing portrayed here. There is a big overlap with the picaresque novel though the content is more extreme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:141B:2B64:1:2:CE74:B457 (talk) 11:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Please establish notability and provide a cite
Moving this to Talk:


 * Due to a surge in popularity in the 21st century Transgressive Fiction now has a central hub celebrating authors and books from past classics to contemporary masterpieces.

This has no cite and no evidence of notability.

If anybody wants to move this back to the article, please establish notability and provide a cite from a reliable source.

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