Talk:Transport in England

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Motorways - major destinations
I don't know what criteria were used to define the 'major destinations'; the list misses out many primary destinations. I'm tagging the section as possible POV until this can be established.--Pondle (talk) 17:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Great British Railways "will"
Wikipedia policy WP:CRYSTAL requires that we do not say that something "will" happen since reality may intervene. The most we can do is to report that the government says that it is it's intention that it will happen. In the case of GBR, one of Johnson's "Make Britain Great Again" fantasies, we really have to be very cautious. It could just as easily be kicked into the long grass and never come to fruition. A change of government could see the whole idea buried. As the HS2 debacle has shown, government statements that something "will" happen are of limited value. We can report actual events after they have happened, not before. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Great British Railways has a transition team of over 200 employees already and is very much happening. We'll add it to this page when it's fully here in autumn 2024. 212.140.200.197 (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I would also like to stress HS2 is going ahead - there will be a high-speed railway link connecting London to Birmingham, with normal trains connecting the line to Manchester and the Midlands. 212.140.200.197 (talk) 20:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * But right now, it does not exist. It is just a plan, no more. It has no employees: the people you list are working on this plan, not on any actual rail infrastructure or services. It has no statutory basis. Until it is actually in operation, we cannot say that it "is" anything, nor can we say in WP:Wikivoice that it will happen, only that the government says that it will. The same government that said that HS2 "will" run to Manchester and before that said that it "will" run to Leeds. Like those projects if not more so, it could be abandoned since it is not at all obvious what the point is of spending all the money to set it up. This is the key message of WP:CRYSTAL: we do not predict the future. That is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia and if you can't live with that then Wikipedia is the wrong place for your interests
 * No, it is only probable that there will be a high speed railway between Old Oak Common and Birmingham. You only have a worthless HMG assurance that this won't be abandoned too. We have no idea what trains will run on it: again, we can only gaze onto the crystal ball, which is contrary to Wikipedia policy. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:20, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Who is "we" in your statement "we'll add it to this page" above? Bazza (talk) 08:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)