Talk:Transport of Białystok children/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Auntieruth55 (talk · contribs) 15:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll start this in a few days. auntieruth (talk) 15:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could I take this? — Vami ♜  _IV♠  11:29, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't want to rush you (I'm just an uninvolved editor btw), but are you still planning to review this? It's been over a month since the last ping and almost two months since your original comment which said that you'd start in a few days. Thanks!-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 20:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Maaaaaan, you posted just as I was writing my review! You threw off my groove! – ♠Vami _IV†♠  21:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, what are the chances. But, why does your signature for the GA review show that you posted it on 5 November 2018, when the page history shows otherwise... ?-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 22:22, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ahhhhhh! I didn't notice I did that, I swear to you. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  23:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I have taken over the review of this article. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  21:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Opening statement
Being bold and taking this review. I am reviewing this article as the Coordinator of WikiProject Germany. Disclosure: I have previously reviewed and passed several of Catrìona's articles and am on good terms with her. In reviews I conduct, I may make small copyedits. These will only be limited to spelling and punctuation (removal of double spaces and such). I will only make substantive edits that change the flow and structure of the prose if I previously suggested and it is necessary. For replying to Reviewer comment, please use ✅,, , ❌, , or , followed by any comment you'd like to make. I will be crossing out my comments as they are redressed, and only mine. A detailed, section-by-section review will follow. — Vami ♜  _IV♠  19:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

The transport

 * Rumors circulated that the children would be exchanged for German prisoners of war and sent to safety in Switzerland. With whom were the Nazis to exchange the children for PoWs?
 * The victims were not privy to this information, which is discussed in the background section.
 * Ah, I misread. –Vami


 * Held in a former gymnasium, Gymnasium meaning a school? I'm American, so first instinct for me when reading this is to think "Planet Fitness."
 * Yes, a European gymnasium; linked.


 * However, German troops accidentally shelled the building on 18 August, killing a few dozen children. What were the Germans (supposed to be) shooting at?
 * Presumably the Jewish resisters who were participating in the Bialystok Ghetto Uprising.


 * Probably on 21 August,[d] Give this stronger wording and dissolve Footnote "d" into the text. I picture: Between 21 and 25 August,[22]. Keep, but relocate elsewhere in the paragraph, that the transport took three days.
 * Actually, Bender says that the transport took three days, and probably departed on 21 August but possibly departed a day later (22 August). I've edited this to be more clear. Adler (p. 126) says that they arrived on 24 August. I think the current wording best reflects what the sources say.


 * (as was typically the case during the Holocaust) Replace the parentheses with commas.


 * However, the Not sure what this is contradicting, I recommend removing "However,".


 * Delete footnote "e".
 * ❌ I think this is relevant.

At Theresienstadt

 * The incident, although not well understood by the other residents of Theresienstadt, was one of the few clues to the ultimate fate of those deported from the camp.[29] Not neutral, delete.
 * How is this not neutral? Multiple sources discuss what information Theresienstadt prisoners had about what fate awaited those sent "to the East".
 * Apologies. I withdraw this bulletpoint. –Vami


 * Attempting to find out more about the rumors of gas chambers, Fredy Hirsch We, of course, know who Hirsch is, but he should have an introduction here, like Fredy Hirsch, a community leader at the camp,