Talk:Trapper Keeper (South Park)

german episode name
i saw the german episode today on mtv and the heading was wrong. if i remember right, it was named "Die 4. Klasse" ("The 4. Grade"), which should actually be the name of the previous episode... 87.177.246.129 20:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

-> I do not believe that cartman requesting music from his t'keeper is ANY AT ALL reference to star trek, especially not to picard! i believe that this way of requesting the computer for something is only logical, beacuse it is about defining the parameters, one at the time and in certain order. that was shown in many star trek episodes in various series and in different situation. i also believe that this was of computer interaction is present in other SF productions. also the way of sayng "human" is very different than this in star trek. i know those things because i've seen almost every episode of ST, many of which multiple times. i delete two references i wrote about above. however trapper keeper is obvious reference to the borg, and this is cool. (if you're gonna comment my language note that i'm not a native speaker, but high school student). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.34.211.145 (talk) 18:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Uncited material
Cite the following please or at least let us know how it's relevant to the main article;


 * The steel spikes which spring out of Trapper Keeper when anyone other then Cartman holds it is similar to the spikes which spring out of Blade's longsword in the Blade films and comics.
 * When Bill Cosby is telling the story of how in the future Trapper Keeper takes over the world to Officer Barbrady and the boys, Trey Parker sings his own rendition of the Dawson’s Creek theme song.
 * When Cartman crashes the police cruiser into Cosby, he says "Book 'em, Barbrady," A reference to the line "Book 'em, Danno," of the show Hawaii Five-O.
 * After Cartman orders his Trapper Keeper to "initiate music, country, high volume", the opening bars of Your Cheatin' Heart is played.

Grandfather paradox
Unlike stated in the Wiki, the entire South Park episode is contradictory to the Grandfather Paradox. The humanoid has prevented his own birth, which is impossible according to the Grandfather Paradox, because if he wasn't born/created, he wouldn't be able to prevent his birth in the first place. The Wiki refers to his disappearing as "according to the Grandfather Paradox", which is not related to the Grandfather Paradox at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Denniz00 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Science fiction references

 * The Bill Cosby/Trapper Keeper storyline is based on the Terminator movies. Bill Cosby is based on Kyle Reese (even down to some elements of his clothing) and the T-800 with his odd accent, as a parody of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian accent. A soundalike of the theme from the films plays when Cosby reveals his true nature. The Trapper Keeper taking over all computer systems around the world is an allusion to Skynet, the manmade computer network that develops a mind of its own in the Terminator series.
 * Kyle must disable the creature Cartman becomes from within its core, which resembles the core of HAL 9000 in Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kyle even tells Cartman what he’s doing and Cartman responds, “I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Kyle,” which parodies HAL.
 * During the retelling of these future events, other than references to the Terminator movies, some of the war machines also resemble the ED-209 from the Robocop movies, except for the large Dawson’s Creek photo as a torso.
 * After Cartman is absorbed by Trapper Keeper, the background music and physical form of Trapper Keeper and the way Rosie O'Donnell is crushed and killed by Trapper Keeper's churning insides are reminiscent of the animated sci-fi film Akira.
 * The absorption of Cartman by the Trapper Keeper, and the subsequent absorption of Rosie O'Donnell, may also be a nod to the film Superman III in which the main villain Ross Webster's sister, Vera Webster, is absorbed into the supercomputer used to destroy Superman after Richard Pryor's character (Gus Gorman) attempts to destroy the supercomputer and it defends itself, and she is remade into a cyborg that attacks him in the final action scene of the movie. The supercomputer than proceeds to try and absorb Superman, who uses acid taken from a chemical plant to finally stop it.

Political reference
The kindergarten election storyline is based on the United States Presidential Election of 2000, the results of which were eventually decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. "Flora" represents Florida, the undecided state, and the "Absent Kid" represents the "absentee ballots", those of overseas Americans, which come in later than other ballots. Ike and Filmore running for class President could be a possible reference to two former U.S. Presidents; Millard Filmore and Dwight "Ike" Eisenhower.

Deleting references
Whats the deal with Alastairward deleting all the references in the article, on the basis that there is no citation? The citation is the show. For example the same thing that happens in the show happens in Akira. Thats the citation. 76.117.126.173 (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The citation is should not be the show itself, see WP:NOR. If it's a significant plot point or cultural reference, then it will likely be cited in a secondary source. Alastairward (talk) 11:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Fallout: Tactics cultural reference
I noticed this episode involves a sentient Computer AI trying to take over the world, where in Fallout: Tactics there is a mission named 'Cheyenne Mountain' set in Colorado in which you take a nuclear device to a vault controlled by an advanced computer called 'the Calculator' to destroy it. I think its highly likely this episode directly referenced Fallout: Tactics and would love to know if Matt or Trey played the game. 47.208.247.213 (talk) 03:01, 18 November 2023 (UTC)