Talk:Trauma (American TV series)

Criticism
Just asking about the criticism, should we even have this? I mean, yeah it's inaccurate, but so was Third Watch, so was ER. --Dasbrick (talk) 19:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

"ER" and "Third Watch" at least had licensed medical professionals providing constant input and oversight to the show. "Trauma" claims to have, but the show was just PACKED full of gross negligence, borderline criminal behavior, and inaccurate depictions of events that it crossed the line. Even TNT's "Saved" got more of it right. "Trauma" was just way over the top big-budget *bad* and the ratings reflected that. Even the reviews coming out of San Francisco were terrible. The show had a real chance, but NBC opted for more drama and explosions than reality. I wouldn't even rank it up there with "Emergency!" because at least that show got it right. "Emergency!" is widely credited as being one of the things that helped get Emergency Medical Services into the public eye in a positive light, and the main actors still today appear before Congress for EMS related issues. "Trauma" was nowhere close. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.55.86 (talk) 18:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I removed the word "immature" from the criticism section. The word "immature" did not appear in any of the cited documents for the sentence and looked to be more of an opinion from whoever edited that section.

A "sequel" to "Emergency!"?
This is the closest thing to a sequel or remake to the 1970's series "Emergency!" there's been on TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 07:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * -- true, but then what was Third Watch? That show had firefighters, police, and members of FDNY's EMS division. --Dasbrick (talk) 19:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * dasbrick has a point. 69.177.38.161 (talk) 16:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Not really. You guys see a connection and have made unsubstantiated and baseless quantum leaps.  Believe it or not, just because you see similarities doesn't make one a sequel of the other.  Emergency was the first show about paramedics because Jack Webb developed it when paramedics were brand new.  The pilot was even about how they came about and the LAFD first adopted the paramedic model.  That doesn't make every show since that's about paramedics a sequel.  By that logic every legal show on TV would have to be a sequel to the first cop show on TV, whatever that might have been, and that's just absurd. Drmargi (talk) 16:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

No new episodes v. cancellation
NBC has NOT cancelled Trauma. They did not order episodes beyond the initial 13, but have not officially cancelled it yet. It is still in production, and there are eight episodes to be broadcast before the show finishes. A bit of careful reading of the coverage would make that clear. Until NBC officially cancels it (not TV by the Numbers or any such marginally reliable site,) the show can't be described or treated as cancelled. Drmargi (talk) 23:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

From a 'marginally reliable site' - "NBC plans to continue airing the show for now, and will produce all 13 episodes from its current order (meaning the show will likely finish its run). After that, production on the show will shut down." - however, NBC doesn't flat out announce cancellations like this. They have done this to other shows as well. TNT still has the pages for the show "Saved" up, but the show did not come back after Season 1. As far as more 'reliable' sites, - LA Times. - San Francisco Chronicle. If anybody is well aware of the cancellation, it's the City of San Francisco. We can be pedantic about it, but to me, "No more episodes after this season" = cancelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.55.86 (talk) 15:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Episode 6
Episode 6 is named "Home Court", not "M'Aidez". The latter is episode 8. Just sayin'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.243.35.254 (talk) 11:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Revert
would broadcast the entire 13 episode order already produced says that the order is broadcast. I changed this to say that the episodes are broadcast. --Ettrig (talk) 19:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a grammatical error in your edit, and I'm going to revert it again. Please check your grammar carefully before making any further changes.  Drmargi (talk) 19:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Please explain the grammatical error, I don't see it. I have pointed out a factual error. --Ettrig (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What factual error? The original edit is sourced and accurate, and the new edit says the same thing, but with a grammatical error added. The use of the word order is the collective term for a group of episodes. Drmargi (talk) 20:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I changed but would broadcast the entire 13 episode order already produced into but would broadcast all the 13 episodes already produced. We could also say that I changed the entire 13 episode order into all the 13 episodes. Both are the same kind of noun phrase. Let me repeat though, that the episodes were both produced and broadcast. The order was produced, but it wasn't broadcast. The factual error is that it says that the order was broadcast. Yes, I did check the grammar carefully. Please give a hint to what is the grammatical difference between the entire 13 episode order and all the 13 episodes.--Ettrig (talk) 20:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I see you're not a first-language English writer, and perhaps that's the problem. What was originally there was accurate and grammatically correct as written.  You've now gone from one grammatical error to multiple grammatical errors in order to fix what was never wrong.  The use of order in this context is correct - it's common parlance to say a network will broadcast an order, meaning a group of episodes they ordered.  Order simply serves as a collective term.  Moreover, at present, only seven of the 13 episodes have been broadcast, #12 is in production and #13 is in pre-production, so the original statement is more accurate given your later edits.  Please leave it alone!  Drmargi (talk) 20:23, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The current text that you have reverted to says that all the 13 episodes had been produced. Your statements above are inconsistent with that. You have still not provided any indication of what the grammatical problem is.--Ettrig (talk) 21:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

It's customary to wait until a consensus discussion is complete before making a new edit. The grammar errors could have been addressed once we dealt with the larger issue of content and how to reconcile what a source said v. the production reality. However, for the record, there were errors of verb tense, word order and word usage. Drmargi (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Compare the following two, regarding grammar:


 * 1) In 2008, NBC announced it would broadcast the 13 episodes ordered
 * 2) In 2008, NBC announced it will broadcast the 13 episodes ordered
 * --Ettrig (talk) 08:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * And then do what? Your point being?  The grammar is wrong as edited yet again but this has gone beyond getting the grammar right to you just being right, full stop, given the tone of your last post.  You're not a first-language English speaker, the sentence construction is complex, and you don't appear to understand how it should be.   I doubt anything I could say, were I inclined to play teacher, which I'm not, would make a difference.  Drmargi (talk) 08:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * My point: You wrote something similar to 1), then changed it to something similar to 2). I changed back to 1). I hoped that when you saw this grammatical detail in a less complex context, you would see that your first version is right. --Ettrig (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Featured songs
Isn't the Commercial Songs section in this article redundant, since this information is provided in the List of Trauma episodes article beneath each episode? 83.243.35.254 (talk) 14:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, and it's all unsourced. I've reverted it and the production data regarding Bullitt until it's properly sourced. Drmargi (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Leno = Trauma
With the ending of the Leno show, would this give trauma new life? Could this be the reason that the show has not been canceled? I also read somewhere, the futon critic, that NBC had ordered 3 more episodes. NBC has a large number of hours to fill, and even low ratings is better than Leno's ratings. 76.241.139.94 (talk) 04:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

thank you for bring back trauma. this is the most realistic show about trauma in field. I've worked in the ems field for 20yrs and seen been part of some about what they do. their protocals may be different but it looks like the actual things. I just hope you keep this even though the rating is down. I just hope you will find away to keep this. Its nice to see as this show and I hope you will find away to keep ths please. if drop this i just hope if you drop this please find some other station to pick it up please. thanks very much c morrison North Carolina  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.75.103.124 (talk) 05:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Status of Trauma
To date, Trauma has not been cancelled by NBC. Although it seems likely they will in the near future, they haven't as yet, and in fact, are still considering its fate according to an interview with cast member Cliff Curtis on April 27. Therefore, adding an end date and/or labeling it cancelled in advance of an announcement from NBC is WP:OR or WP:POV, and should be reverted. Drmargi (talk) 09:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 4 May 2017

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved. I've redirected Trauma (TV series) to Trauma, which is the dab page I assumed was talking about. (non-admin closure).  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   07:13, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Trauma (TV series) → Trauma (U.S. TV series) – Necessary further disambiguation from Trauma (Canadian TV series), as per WP:NCTV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:22, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Support, and redirect Trauma (TV series) to the dab page per WP:INCDAB.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - and redirect Trauma (TV series) per Cuchullain. Egsan Bacon (talk) 12:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NCTV. kennethaw88 • talk 03:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per previous comments, and in addition the two shows started around the same time anyway. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:7826:84D0:EC02:DBB7 (talk) 20:34, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Just to confirm, you are suggesting that a dab page be made? --TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:30, 12 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.