Talk:Trauma (medicine)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 15:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll review this one soon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

a 1-paragraph 654-character LEAD paragraph strikes me as too small to summarize a 12911-character article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:LEAD


 * Classification
 * There should be no spaces between the citations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The second column is arbitrarily presented.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Physical examination
 * I think you should link to Physical examination.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Surgical techniques
 * What is "hemodynamic stability"?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Intravenous fluids
 * I don't think a lot of people know what a thorax is. Link it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Are there links for mentation and peripheral pulses?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Medications
 * In people who are bleeding due to trauma Comma.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Overall, I am a medical professional. Thus, my perspective my be a bit off. As an economics/finance scholar, I question whether this article can be complete without a section on the Economics of trauma. Here in the Chicago, the Southernmost trauma center is in the Near North Side, Chicago community area. The reason is that in the low income areas where violence is prevalent, it is unprofitable to run a trauma center. South Side shooting (driveby or other) victims often die in the ambulance during the commute to the North Side. There are marches and protests held at South Side hospitals complaining about the closure of all South Side trauma centers (such as the former center at University of Chicago Medical Center), but their closure is a reality. Otherwise the article may be fairly complete. I am placing this on hold and may request a 2nd opinion of a medical expert for other completeness considerations. Please respond to each concern on the subsequent line.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not formally reviewing the article, Tony is. I agree with the assessment "whether this article can be complete without a section on...".


 * Look at the sections:

1 Classification

2 Causes

3 Diagnosis

4 Management

5 Prognosis

6 Epidemiology

7 Research

8 In children

9 In pregnancy

My impression is that these 9 categories are not the be all and end all for trauma. I would need to ponder much, much longer but, off the top of my head, why not the following sections: ?

1. Definition,  2. History, 3. Causes and classification (include pediatric). Why a section on obstetrical trauma? Why not burn trauma, head trauma, gun trauma (I know there's a better word for it), auto trauma? 4. The way trauma is treated (Germany has the helicopter system? Inner city has Level 1 or 2 trauma centers?),  5. Management, 6. Sociologic, Economic or Epidemiology? 7. Prognosis is extremely difficult to cover since there is so many kinds of trauma. How about trauma outside the U.S.? How about accreditation? How about covering trauma surgeons? Is this a specialty?

In the Management of trauma, I see 9 lines (in my computer) to the ambulance, 4 lines to protecting the neck, but only one WORD to the airway. I thought that in the management of trauma, perhaps 5 lines to the airway, 3 lines to protecting the neck, and 3 lines to protecting the neck would be more appropriate to avoid undue weight issues.

Back to Dr. Tony. Auchansa (talk) 04:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reminded the nominator that there have been no responses to the concerns.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:59, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am FAILING this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not think this is a BA (bad article). I commend those who worked on it.  However, I do see some reasons why Tony doesn't promote this article to GA.  Sorry. Auchansa (talk) 04:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)