Talk:Treaty of London (1604)

Picture
Great picture. Robert (AWCM) 24-12-05 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.191.69 (talk) 04:24, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks to whoever uploaded a larger version of this. Additional detail is now noticable. What do the dates 1560/1561 on the wall tapestries signifiy? Drutt (talk) 22:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Uti Possidetis
Should be something about how James the Ist sent letters to Philip III in connection with this treaty stating the English policy of Uti Possidetis (i.e. that while James recognized the existence of Spanish authority in those regions of the Western Hemisphere where Spain exercised effective control, he refused to recognize theoretical Spanish claims to exclusive control of large chunks of unoccupied territory under the Treaty of Tordesillas, so that England would continue its voyages and colonization efforts in North America). AnonMoos 14:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Dates
Any chance? Johnbod (talk) 02:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The Spanish article says that it was signed in August 1604, but this article gives the month as May. Also, two dates are shown. Is one New Style and the other Old Style? Drutt (talk) 12:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have corrected the dates. Drutt (talk) 00:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Really?
" The terms of the treaty were favourable to Spain, as they brought to an end English support to the Dutch rebellion since the Treaty of Nonsuch (1585), and the end of attacks upon Spanish sea trade."

Spain seems to have abandoned all of her war aims, conceded English hegemony in the islands, failed to expand her influence in France, and largely lost the Dutch Revolt by this point. It was favourable because England agreed to cease continuing to destroy Spanish ships and kill Spanish troops? I can see this as a treaty of mutual exhaustion rather than an English victory per se, but to paint it as a Spanish victory stretches the facts past breaking point in my view. 78.149.6.1 (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Suggested addition: ceremony of signing of the treaty
There was a series of events celebrating the signing of the treaty by the ambassador of honour (signing on behalf of the king of Spain), Alessandro Robida, (Senator of Milan), including a masque. Recent research indicates that the masque included dances by |Cesare Negri in Milan in 1602 (2 years previously). Reportedly these dances were appreciated by Ambassador Robida, who was familiar with the style and the works of the choreographers publishing in Italy including Milan.

I think this can usefully be developed into a new section with the appropriate attribution of research, some of which has been presented to the Historical Dance Society (formerly called Dolmetsch Historical Dance Society).