Talk:Treaty of Wanghia

Language
The name in Western language of 望廈 is Mong-Ha, Mong-Há, Mong Ha or Mong Há and these four names are widely used in Macau. Differently, the name of "Wangxia" is almost never used in Macau.--HeiChon 12:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The treaty was signed between Qing China and the United States, and would probably had two language versions. What was the original name of the treaty in English? &mdash; Instantnood 22:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The was called the "Treaty of Wang hea", which is clearly based on the Mandarin pronunciation. The reason for this is of course that the Qing negotiators probably did not speak Cantonese.--Niohe 21:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Is the original text of the English-language version of the treaty available on the Internet? &mdash; Instantnood 20:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of, but I have the official text in front of me, reprinted in a volume from the Chinese maritime customs in 1917. The treaty is called the "Treaty of Wang-hea".--Niohe 20:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Would be nice if you can create an electronic copy of it and upload it onto the Internet. The text is obviously in the public domain. :-) &mdash; Instantnood 21:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll see when I have time to take of it. Always happy to serve the community.--Niohe 21:44, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Great. :-D &mdash; Instantnood 22:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Why did China agree?
At the time, the US did not have a western coast or was an a great military power. Why did China agree then to open treaty ports and give extraterritorality? My guess is that like several other powers like Russia, it wanted to balance Britian's influence, but I have no proof of this conclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deucalionite (talk • contribs)
 * For one explanation, read Tsiang, T.F. (Tingfu). "The Extension of Equal Commercial Privileges to Other Nations Than the British after the Treaty of Nanking." The Chinese Social and Political Science Review 15, no. 3 (1931): 422-44.--Amban 22:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Can the article be extended please? I'm left wondering what "imposed" means. How was the treaty imposed? Were threats made? Trade sanctions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.159.58.220 (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

"Ratification"
Under U.S. law, wasn't the treaty "ratified" by the U.S. Senate and then "promulgated" by the President? Under the U.S. Constitution, only the Constitution itself and ratified treaties are given the formal status of "supreme law of the land". 2600:1004:B158:494:8522:3B62:D42D:FC7C (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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