Talk:Trial of Yolanda Saldívar/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: GregJackP (talk · contribs) 06:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Discussion
1.a. Prose. The grammar needs a lot of work. I would suggest withdrawing the nomination and having someone copy-edit the article. GregJackP  Boomer!   07:13, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

2.a. Citations. Ref #1 is cited to state that Saldivar is a Tejano music fan, but the book states the opposite, that she was not a Tejano fan, but a country music fan.
 * This was changed from a previous edit on the murder article and was pasted onto this article by accident. I fixed that she was a country music fan, however, two others books (one just added) says differently about her taste in music. I added that she did enjoy Tejano (maybe at the time of the interview in 1996 she was may had felt differently) and that she was interested in opening up a fan club for Shelly Lares. jona   (talk)   19:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The same reference says nothing about the fan club on p.72.
 * It was on page 73. Fixed, jona   (talk)   19:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Ref #4 does not support the text.
 * The first one was a page behind and the second text does support the claim. jona   (talk)   19:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Ref #10 does not support the text. With less than 10% of the refs checked, there are already 3 of 10 that are bad. GregJackP   Boomer!   07:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

6.a. Image tags. The image used in the infobox is a composite of two non-free images combined into one. The Texas Monthly may be OK, as it covers the trial, but the Time cover merely shows Selena and talks of a new movie about her. That does not fall within the fair-use rationale for this article. GregJackP  Boomer!   07:26, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The text does support that Quintanilla, Jr. had documentation that proved she was forging checks under her sister's name, it does not support the $60,000 claim which I replaced. jona   (talk)   19:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While the text in Time may support the article, you are using the image. The image itself must support the article, which it does not, and therefore fails a fair use test. GregJackP   Boomer!   14:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't mind withdrawing this article, but I would really appreciate it if you can go through it so I can fix all the issues. Also, you may be reading the 2015 edition of the book and is why you can't find the text in the same order. Best, jona   (talk)   19:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll go through it, but it will probably take a little time. GregJackP   Boomer!   14:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! jona   (talk)   22:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Prose. There are quite a few errors, I would recommend that rather than relying on me (it will take forever if I do the grammar), that when everything else is addressed, you ask the Guild of Copy Editors (WP:GOCE) to run through the article. Make sure you tell them that it is for a run at Good Article. They are real helpful, I've used them on my own GA and FA noms.
 * Refs.
 * fn35: Does not support the statement. The judge raised the bond to $500K, not the District Attorney, who does not have the authority to do so. The book said that the DA asked a judge to increase it, not that the DA did so himself.
 * fn42: You need to clarify that the "worth $50 million" was the opinion of one man, Racehorse Hayes. The source does not state that the entire team spent $20K, it states that the mock trial alone cost $20K. Charles Arnold was not "likened," he was "liked," according to the source. The statement about the rape exam and lying is not supported. According to this source, Selina realized that she was being lied to, not the nurses.
 * I'll get to some more later. GregJackP   Boomer!   04:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)