Talk:Trikonasana

Early entry
This needs an Image 166.70.226.109 (talk) 03:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

howto vs. description
I've tried to maintain descriptive language in my edit just now, as opposed to a list of instructions on how to perform the pose; but I did add in a full description of the pose itself, because the article is essentially just a useless stub if it doesn't contain any description of the configuration of the body while the pose is performed. I was trying to address content, and not give advice; hopefully this is acceptable to those patrolling for how-to articles. --Valravn (talk) 20:16, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge with Utthita Trikonasana
Utthita Trikonasana and Trikonasana are variations of the same pose. Some schools of yoga make no distinction between them. What distinctions there are could be made in this article. Morganfitzp (talk) 21:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Major revamp: 60+ citations added, Utthita trikonasana merged and redirected
If anybody can find sources that makes a distinction between trikonasana and utthita trikonasana, do please add them. MarB4 (talk) 12:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * See this book: Morganfitzp (talk) 01:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


 * This article has too many inline citations at one location. This is bad stylisticaly. The point of having the citations is to indicate that the fact is well sourced. If it is uncontrversial one source is sufficent. Thus select the best, most reliable source (Academic & Print & with online edition available) and remove the rest (delete or futher reading if the add new info).  BO ; talk 14:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Those ~20 citations in a row you are talking about, in the paragraph how they state that some sources say that Trikonasana is Extended Trikonasana and how some sources refer to them both as the same, and not, and vice versa? I'd say the whole paragraph could probably be deleted as it these are variations and it is explained, described and sourced in asana.Curb Chain (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree that the citations are excessive, making the article hard to read and insufferable to edit. (I was trying to find and delete the overused italics in that section and just gave up.) Morganfitzp (talk) 01:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Links
I replaced a broken link, a link to animated incorrect form, and some non-encyclopedic quality photo links. I also added Yoga Journal's Extended Triangle Pose to the External Links section, since it offers a detailed and illustrated description of the asana. Nenuphar11 (talk) 14:19, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Removed Wikiprojects and lowered importance
Removed the project templates for Spirituality and Hinduism here. Yes, Trikonasana is part of yoga, yoga is part of Hinduism, and Hinduism is part of spirituality, but Trikonasana is of low importance in terms of yoga (it may be mid-importance in asana) and therefore insignificant in Hinduism/spirituality. Morganfitzp (talk) 01:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Something wrong here
No discussion since 2012? Wow.

It has wisely been said that there is something seriously wrong when any claim is cited to 6 or more sources. Well, when there are 20 sources, something is very wrong, probably WP:SYNTH:


 * "Although many sources do list trikonasana (triangle pose) as an asana,[7][8][9][10][11] [12] [13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26] many other sources will not list trikonasana (triangle pose) as an asana in itself, but will either list only utthita trikonasana (extended triangle pose),[27][28][29][30] describing it similar to sources listing trikonasana (triangle pose), or list both utthita trikonasana (extended triangle pose) and parivrtta trikonasana (revolved triangle pose).[31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45][46][47][48][49][26][50]"

This needs to be rewritten from WP:RS. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Variations
Extended trikonasana is a variation. Could you rewrite the article so that variation names are listed in variations? I think only the name of the article should have its etymology explained in the lede.--Catchpoke (talk) 03:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking. Utthita Trikonasana is the full name of the standard pose, as in Light on Yoga pp 63-65, so that bit is correct. But the variations section is currently non-standard, I wrote it long before most of the other Asana articles, so I'll update that section now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for applying my feedback. But since Utthita Trikonasana is the full name of the standard asana in the reference "Light on Yoga pp 63-65", why not note that in the article? Catchpoke (talk) 21:59, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also: the prefixes could be moved to ==Etymology== while the description and name of the variations should go to ==Variations==. Catchpoke (talk) 22:02, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

It is so noted in the first sentence, but most schools and teachers just say Trikonasana so no need to make a big fuss about it, it's a minor historical aside on the pose's name. The prefixes are shared with many other asanas and we shouldnot redefine all of them in a hundred articles, they are listed in List of asanas. The variations are already in their own section so I don't know what you mean: the short summary at the top is called the lead section and it just tells the article's story in brief, so it always repeats something. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It was noted in the citation. It needs to be explained in text (not in citation text) that "Utthita Trikonasana" is the full name.  Actually, it is very important to list prefixes in each article because List of asanas is a separate page and not all readers will go to it.  The variations with prefixes need to be explained in ==Variations== so the prefixes need to be listed on each individual article and every variation of each article needs to be listed in this section. Catchpoke (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

It's noted in the very first sentence, viz. "Trikonasana or Utthita Trikonasana, [Extended] Triangle Pose ...". I broadly agree about tidying up the variations more explicitly as it helps to collect them together; the chief issue is that quite often there are multiple similar poses with no obvious leader, not the problem here. The variations with prefixes are translated, and I think we can perfectly well rely on the reader to see that since the word "Trikonasana" occurs in all of them, any change in meaning must be the prefix, since the name of each variation is translated. Otherwise we're frankly into an absurd level of repetitive and useless duckspeak clutter, exactly what we need to avoid. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm continuing this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yoga. Catchpoke (talk) 19:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)


 * So I see. It's a bad idea to split discussions, and to take short phrases you haven't understood out of context. But I've replied over there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)